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hello everyone and welcome to the show

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i'm martin willis your host and this is

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our 500th

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show i'm not making a big deal of it

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really per se

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but um because i had my little 10-year

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celebration there you know a uh what was

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that a month or two ago but it's funny i

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put back on the calendar

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two years ago i

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counted ahead somewhere around there i

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don't know exactly when but i counted

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ahead

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and got to

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this date and i put this is my 500th

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show luckily i did my math right and uh

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so i put on the calendar like two years

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ago that this was going to be a call-in

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show

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so i'm hoping

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that um it i hope you call in we would

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like to hear from you uh

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we we are actually going to be putting

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the number up here in just a minute but

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bill bill will be standing by he i'm

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going to pull him in until uh and talk

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with him until we have you know people

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lined up on the phone lines

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and so you can call in about

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uh basically anything uap related i'd

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like to keep it along the lines of ufos

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uaps things like that we can touch a

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little bit on abductions um but also

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feel free to call in and ask me

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questions why not um

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you know this 500 show you'd think that

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i know something about ufos

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but i don't

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there's uh it's still just a mystery to

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me um and i'm still love exploring the

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mystery and you know hopefully we'll

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find out more as we go along you know

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the more i look into this as i've said

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many times i feel like it's the less i

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know

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but it's still really fascinating to me

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uh let's see bill i'm going to be

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bringing you in a minute but i want to

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talk first of all

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uh charles lear does a great

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blog every week plus he does an audio

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blog from that that's posted up on

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youtube and it's also in the podcast

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feed last week in the middle of the week

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i did a show with

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mark ali about uh crystal skulls and he

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is an archaeologist and it was a really

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fascinating so that's up on the youtube

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channel if you want to check that out if

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you haven't watched it yet um he also

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talks very casually at the end i said oh

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you were going to talk about ufos

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and because he has written some books on

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that and

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he just kind of casually said oh yes

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someone has given me crash material it's

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in the garage so i have to find out what

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that's all about and i'm gonna you know

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i don't know what i think about crash

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material yet um i don't know if there's

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enough real strong evidence that

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what these things are is

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uh that they find materials meta

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materials uh is actually from um an

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intelligence out there i i don't know

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i'm on the fence about it i should put

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it that way so anyway i'd still want to

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find out what that is so

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the blog getting back to what charles

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lear did this week a multiple witness

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ufo abduction so that's what his blog is

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on and it starts out with the travis

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wall in the case and more so check that

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out over at podcast ufo.com

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uh also if you head on over there you

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also see that you can support the show

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and anything you would like to help out

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with two dollars or more a month i'm

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grateful for all that thank you for all

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the people that do support the show

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and uh i do want to tell i'm getting a

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text right now from the man himself uh

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james fox um i've had a conversation

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with him recently and we're going to be

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we're going to be uh setting up an on

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location at his house he moved from

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california to vermont i guess that's no

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secret and he bought this big huge mega

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place where he can work on his films and

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i think it's a farm in a in vermont

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that will happen but he did send me a

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final cut of his video on the vaho

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i can't it's the brazil case i've heard

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about it for years pardon me for messing

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up the name of that the area where this

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film that he's created and i gotta tell

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you if you watch this when it comes out

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you're going to not be able to say that

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there's nothing that went on there after

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watching it it was like these people are

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totally believable like he asked me not

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to reveal too much about it

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but there is never seen before testimony

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that will be in this um that just really

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i watched it with a friend and it blew

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us both away it's really incredible so i

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don't know if we uh even have anyone on

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the line yet um

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yes i got to put up the call-in number

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i'll do that just in one second here

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and here we go so here is the call-in

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uh bill is standing by and until we get

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callers in um

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again call in about a sighting that you

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or sightings plural if you'd like um

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call in about your experiences

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and just the ufo topic whether you've

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been looking into it for years how you

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feel about it how you feel things are

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going i'd like to hear from you

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uh also if you would like to talk about

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other things as long as it's kind of

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related to the ufo world that's uh

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that's why we'd like to touch on topics

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today it looks like i could see bill in

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the background looks like he's already

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talking to someone on the phone

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so there that's the case uh logan thank

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you very much

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any can you help me with that

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pronunciation anyway you're right about

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that it's up on the screen

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and anyway uh and eve thank you i

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understand about being shy

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about calling in

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about your sighting i totally understand

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that and you can totally remain

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anonymous when you do call in if you

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would like

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and there's no shame here nothing to be

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um it's funny i had uh yeah we're

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getting calls in so bill thank you for

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that i'll i'll get the call in just a

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minute um you know there's a ufo

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researcher that's out there that's been

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a ufo sighting that he had and why he's

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part of the pack because he had this ufo

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sighting when he was on my show you know

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years ahead of that and just saying yeah

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i've never had a ufo sighting i'm just

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what i'm getting at is his excuse

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according to him was that he was too shy

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to talk about his ufo experience

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what i'm getting at is

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don't be shy europe you can talk about

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ufo experience we'd love to hear from

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you and there is no shame nothing to be

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worried about and i'm going to bring you

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in bill you asked me to bring you in

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hi bill and uh also happy 10th year kgra

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yes that's where what you see behind me

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the balloons obviously they're up there

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somewhere you can't quite see if we see

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it's actually it's actually my birthday

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on april fool's day

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well i thought so yeah that makes sense

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but i want to be sad james fox is always

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working hard i mean he is working

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extremely hard

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really really yeah um

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because i spoke to him a couple of weeks

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ago he says bill i'm just so busy

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this project um

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but and you know what people don't

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realize james as you and i have

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discussed he has a great sense of humor

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he's really funny great guy he's he's

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really a great guy

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and martin there's other projects that

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are going to be dropping in the next

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keep an eye out for some of the things

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that are coming out obviously there's

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end uh ndas involved so it's difficult

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for martin or i to discuss anything but

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trust me there's going to be a lot of

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interesting material

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coming out to the public within a year

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or so i am i can't emphasize that you

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keeping an eye on all that now

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when you call in folks please

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mute your backgrounds because i'll be

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answering the calls so please meet your

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mute your backgrounds when you come on

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and also as always as um there are mods

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just pl try to be respectful um

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and if there's always the agreement to

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disagree with respect that would be my

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whole thing yeah martin congratulations

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on your 500th

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episode

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well thank you and like i say i'm not

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making really a big deal of it other

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than it's a call-in show but

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yeah i'm plugging along and next week

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will be 501 so

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no no

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it is kind of a landmark but i'm not

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making a big deal of it other than i

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just wanted to call in shows james might

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make a big deal just he'll freak out at

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701 huh

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yeah

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that might break for the guy anyway

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folks call in the lines are open we

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already have a caller on the line so

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martin have a great show i am out of

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here

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all right very good all right so we have

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i and i'll look to your questions too

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for those of you that do not want to

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call in i understand i'll try to put

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some questions if you want to post those

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in all caps i would appreciate that so

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right now i'm going to be talking to

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andy a regular caller andy from

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connecticut always fun to hear from you

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you are live on the air andy

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hi congratulations on uh on your 500th

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thank you

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i just wanted to to mention i had a

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crazy sighting i've never brought up

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before about two years ago

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um watering

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my garden

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at about eight at night in the summer i

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looked up and saw a black dot in the sky

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and it stayed stayed in place didn't

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move at all like a plane or a bird would

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so i took out the phone and uh magnified

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in on it and i took 16 pictures in about

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one minute

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and then i magnified in the photos that

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i had taken

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and every single photo

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is a totally different

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shape

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uh object

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and it leads me to believe that i think

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that it's an opening or a portal of some

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sort it's not a craft

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it's black it has a white kind of energy

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perimeter around it

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and i i did report it to mufon

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that never went anywhere

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but i'm happy to provide the photos to

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anybody that that's interested in them

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uh well i don't know how clear are they

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india are they pretty clear

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they're pretty clear i mean it's a it's

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a it's like an eight megapixel

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uh note 20

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cell phone

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um and they're they're as good as you

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you can expect

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and the final detail i would give that

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convinces me that it was something

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bizarre

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you know i'm looking at the open sky

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this thing might have been at 50 or 60

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000 feet

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and

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all of a sudden it just isn't there

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anymore it didn't travel across the sky

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anywhere

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it's just gone

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so that right there leads me to to

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believe that uh something truly

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extraordinary

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well i'll tell you it once you get off

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the phone with me

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if you would like to email the those to

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martinettepodcastufo.com

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i'll look for the email and i'll pop

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those up in here you know and i don't

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know if you want to uh call back in

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later but i'll i'll put those up

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uh if you just feel free i'm sure the uh

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and i'll also put those in the show

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notes um for the for this show in

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particular if someone would like to

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check that out

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um anything else andy you always have

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really good questions every time you

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call in anything else or any comments or

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anything

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that i love your show i used to live in

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maine and i've always been a new england

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yankee

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and uh i have a certain affinity i i try

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to try to listen no matter where i am so

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you're doing it excellent well you've

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been listening for a long time and i

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really appreciate that a lot yeah no

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problem right all right all right you

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take care

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all right

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so i see lou from unidentified celebrity

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review uh lou

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855-472-5483 the line is open and if i

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don't hear from someone right away i'm

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going to bring back in uh

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and bill we're going to be talking a

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little bit more and monica uh thank you

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monica has been listening forever to the

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show

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and she also is uh

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oh the colin yes i see what you're

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saying uh you sure you also are a

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moderator on the on the chat and all the

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moderators she's the only one left and

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it's nothing against

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uh we just had a little bit of a

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moderator breakdown here so uh we have

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just monica in there now and i'll be

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slowly adding uh people as we as we come

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along so uh bill i'm gonna bring you

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back in

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unless we have someone

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uh someone calling

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not right now okay

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uh

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so bill are you there

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yeah but it's weird martin i think oh

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there we are oh i did that

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it was a little glitch thing going on i

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don't know yeah no no it was me i just i

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just said the full screen for myself

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it's just an ego thing that's all it is

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but you know i've had a couple of

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actually one was documented in 95

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i'll never forget it was june 10th 1995.

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i lived in

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the bronx at the time

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um

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the north east part of the bronx

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and i seen something out my window at

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about 11 o'clock at night it was during

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a thunderstorm and it was

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i it was a dark thing i couldn't see it

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but it had

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the five boomerang lights look to it

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i don't know if it was a trying

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triangular but it was boomerang and it

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was heading right to central park where

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they had been showing pocahontas they

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were doing the fireworks and then i

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reported it to peter davenport

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at the time and he emailed me back a

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couple days later he said you're not

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alone many people seen it from new york

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city up to hudson to canada so i've had

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my couple of sites another one in mount

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talk i think it was 199 99 which was

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really interesting martin because when

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chris garatano did the montauk

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chronicles film yeah he contacted me he

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said because i told him about my story

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he says bill i got a clip that was not

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in the movie it was a deleted scene

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and you're not going to believe it but a

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fisherman who's now sadly deceased

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he's seen something in the same area

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that i was looking but he was cut

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looking from the north to the south he

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saw the same thing i did so i was blown

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away when chris sent me that clip

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because it was the same thing that i

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seen over the ocean

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when i was in mountain fishing

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so okay hey guys just let you know could

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people be calling someone saying they're

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calling in and it just rings yeah i was

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looking at the screen and probably

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they'll call whoever who was that robert

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robert

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i'll just i'll i'll jump off but i just

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wanted to to say that all right yeah

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okay yeah call back in yeah yeah all

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right

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thing again and we'll keep you there

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um and just let me know when they come

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in

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so yeah so people are

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there are you know people that are

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watching right now there's

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uh that i know you would like to talk

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about you're saying again uh it's a safe

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place to talk you can just give a first

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name it's not a big deal and love i'd

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love to hear um your experiences they're

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always interesting to me and i i find

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people's ufo

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stories that are not really involved

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in the ufo world so to speak and may

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just dabble in it or look into it a

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little bit but the reason they're doing

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that

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in the first place is because they had

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a sighting i love to hear those

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sightings and it happens quite a bit

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when i'm out around talking to people

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and somehow the subject comes up that i

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do or show in ufos

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and i'm going to say nine times out of

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ten it seems that way maybe i'm

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exaggerating a little

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but someone will say oh yeah uh well i

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had this happen and some of the most

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amazing stories that i've heard is

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you know out in a

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casual conversation

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when you're not expecting anything and i

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know i told this story before

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uh but i'll i'll tell it again um until

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we get another caller is i was out at

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the ufo congress

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in uh phoenix uh i don't know like four

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or five years ago

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uh looks like that'll be continued maybe

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i don't have to talk about that but we

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have uh george

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uh george is calling from new york oh

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i'm sorry robert he gave both names

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robert uh welcome to the show you're

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live on the air

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oh robert hi martin

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thank you for your content and uh

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wondering if you've ever taken the

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possibility that ancient humanities past

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could be related to ufos

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and uh we'll take the call off the

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answer off there thank you wait a minute

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before you go

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are you saying kind of like along the

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ancient alien type theory is that what

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you kind of mean

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uh

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more along the lines of

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humanity has been

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around for like hundreds of thousands of

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years

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and and then have

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uh but

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in regards to say

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extraterrestrials is is there a

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connection

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that you're you're thinking of here i'm

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more thinking of like the theory that

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ufos are humanity

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that survived the younger driest

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cataclysm from

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twelve and a half thousand years ago

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yeah there's a lot of interesting

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there's a you know there's a lot of

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interesting theories and um you know

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after speaking to an astrophysicist

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one time he basically said

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um for

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a culture uh an intelligent culture

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from another planet to line up with

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our planet developing as an intelligence

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the odds of that are like one in a

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billion something like that so not only

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do we have

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um

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not only do we have

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life possibly um very of something very

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rare to find us here at this time or a

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time in the past

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it's uh the time is is is just baffling

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when it comes to

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how things can line up

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so i do think that it's very possible

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that

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we could have been visited by an

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intelligence

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you know even before we started

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developing

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of mammal you know it's very possible

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that we could have been visited

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you know

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a million years ago

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along the works of like graham hancock

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and reynold carlson

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they have basically proven that humanity

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has been around for a lot longer than

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our textbooks tell us they had

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i kind of i kind of feel that way myself

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but it's only because it just seems like

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a very short time that we could have

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developed the way we have uh so i kind

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of feel that way too but it's not on

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based on any science it's just kind of

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how it's kind of baffling that we could

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only be a species of a hundred thousand

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years as some science uh proclaims but

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thank you so much i really appreciate

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your your call robert we have a a few

548
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people lined up now thank you

549
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take care

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blue are you there welcome to the show

551
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hey how are you lou how are you so

552
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congratulations on 500.

553
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yeah again i'm not making a big deal of

554
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it it's just calling show but thank you

555
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very much and uh so lou

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uh you have uh your show is doing really

557
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,320
well i'm very happy things have

558
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:12,400
panned out uh the way they have for you

559
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:14,799
unidentified celebrity review

560
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:17,679
is what um lou does and and um you got

561
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,840
over here at kgr a radio as well so uh

562
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,200
so thanks for calling and how's

563
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,520
everything going for you

564
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:27,520
man everything's going not too shabby i

565
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:29,679
mean it's it's been a rough couple weeks

566
00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:30,640
over here

567
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:31,679
um

568
00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,440
uh you know after our uh interviews a

569
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,520
couple of interviews we had but uh we're

570
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,679
standing strong we're doing good

571
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,840
well let's uh let's touch on that what's

572
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:48,470
uh well we recently had an interview uh

573
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,360
almost two weeks ago with uh

574
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:53,840
with lou elizondo um he's been on the

575
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:56,640
show many many times um

576
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:58,159
you know been very friendly with him in

577
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,760
the past and uh

578
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:01,360
and there was there was a question that

579
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:04,000
we've had for the last few months and to

580
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:05,919
be honest we were kind of afraid to ask

581
00:23:09,130 --> 00:23:08,480
it and the question was essentially um

582
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,140
about a

583
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,799
[Music]

584
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,320
twitter account

585
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:14,559
that was rumored to be his

586
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:15,760
um

587
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:19,039
and the twitter account in question

588
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,320
on it for the most part i'd say 95

589
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,080
of these tweets were

590
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,400
pretty mundane very supportive pretty

591
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,559
nice and then about five to six percent

592
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:30,480
of the tweets weren't so nice and kind

593
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:31,919
of divisive

594
00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:32,799
um

595
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:35,280
and uh so we asked them you know if it

596
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,799
was his account

597
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:39,520
and he didn't deny it uh basically gave

598
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,279
us a soft yes um and then it kind of

599
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:45,679
spiraled from there

600
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,679
you know it had become this um

601
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,000
you know a point of contention i guess

602
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:54,559
for the community um

603
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:57,360
that you know what what does it matter

604
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:59,120
that he has a socked up in a cow who

605
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:00,000
cares

606
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:04,400
on an alternate account or

607
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:05,360
um

608
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,600
talking against dissension or different

609
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:12,000
ways of thinking um

610
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:13,600
and you know it kind of called into

611
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:15,679
question like you know like

612
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,640
why does he need to do that um you know

613
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,240
and it's like i can understand some

614
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,679
people have alternate accounts they want

615
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:24,000
to let off steam they get frustrated uh

616
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,600
they don't want to look like jerks

617
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,760
through their you know public blue check

618
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,039
mark account

619
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:31,120
um but at the same time it's you know

620
00:24:35,830 --> 00:24:33,039
one of the answers he gave us as to why

621
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:35,840
he has the account is to collect

622
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,919
um intel

623
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,440
and you know we just don't know what

624
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,760
that means so i mean

625
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:43,440
for part of the community

626
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:46,480
they don't care but it's okay with him

627
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,240
that someone who's telling a story of

628
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:50,320
this magnitude has multiple accounts

629
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:53,200
that kind of trolls other dissenters of

630
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:54,159
that

631
00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:55,279
opinion

632
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,440
and some people

633
00:25:03,110 --> 00:24:59,039
really do care

634
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,120
that you know this this gentleman has a

635
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,760
alternate accounts that sway opinions

636
00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:06,880
and

637
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,960
you know um

638
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,360
[Music]

639
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,200
flat out

640
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:15,600
make fun of you know the the people who

641
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:16,799
have real

642
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:19,200
questions that that that deserve to be

643
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:20,240
asked

644
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:25,200
of malicious intent or or any rudeness

645
00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:26,240
it's just

646
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,840
a question that goes against the

647
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,279
narrative and

648
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:31,760
and every time even somebody thinks out

649
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,880
loud it's like you get this um

650
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:36,000
this uh

651
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,039
crew of people that descend upon you and

652
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,120
start calling you a liar calling you

653
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:43,679
names or trying to dock some of your

654
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:44,799
fellow

655
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,840
you know co-hosts um or bully people

656
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,240
behind the scenes not to come onto shows

657
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,840
and stuff and it's

658
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:53,760
pretty wild i mean it's been a pretty

659
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,559
wild two weeks you know um yeah

660
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,240
personally i i

661
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,400
i'm of the belief i'm not ida really

662
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:02,400
doesn't bother me

663
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,159
all that much that he has altered

664
00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:06,640
accounts i mean i think in in two years

665
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:08,159
when we're having public hearings

666
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,440
nobody's gonna care about this

667
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,240
but i think there is a section of people

668
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,440
that

669
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:18,880
are really great thinkers really

670
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:19,260
um

671
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,720
[Music]

672
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:23,200
you know patient people but

673
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:24,799
they also have a

674
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:27,279
very big distrust of our government and

675
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:28,559
this

676
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:33,360
distrust for them which sucks

677
00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:35,840
you know um and sort of i guess our

678
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,279
position is you know we're trying to be

679
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,440
as neutral as possible you know i think

680
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,520
people have the right to think whatever

681
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,520
they want you know um

682
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,039
if they like it or they don't like it

683
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:46,960
it's your right to do so but if you are

684
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,799
the kind of person who

685
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:50,559
who thinks that's okay

686
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,440
then

687
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,919
cool just so as long as you allow for

688
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:55,600
other people to have different opinions

689
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,000
to also voice those without you

690
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:00,640
you know divulging into uh

691
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:03,840
you know elementary tactics to

692
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,039
to get people to to try and

693
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,679
fall in line to what your opinion is

694
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,400
um now how did uh just out of curiosity

695
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:14,960
how did someone figure out

696
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,919
that

697
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,679
um and did he

698
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,080
absolutely admit it was his account or

699
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,799
just hint on it did he say flat out yes

700
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,000
this is my other account and then how

701
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:28,640
the other question is follow-up is that

702
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,080
how on earth did anyone find out

703
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:35,039
that this account existed

704
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,799
okay so those are great questions he

705
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,240
in the interview

706
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,960
after he gave his answer i said that

707
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,200
sounds like a soft yes

708
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,440
to which he did not

709
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:49,440
um

710
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,240
uh

711
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:52,080
um object to

712
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:53,279
so

713
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:56,720
you know the the the accounting question

714
00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:59,600
i mean it was this was a rumor that was

715
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:00,880
just

716
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,159
everybody knew that this account

717
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,799
belonged to louisando i heard it from

718
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,880
people who work closely with him i've

719
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:11,039
heard it from reporters i've heard it

720
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:12,159
from

721
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,120
um

722
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,520
uh you know people

723
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:17,840
who've been in the conversation for a

724
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,960
long time and there were even tweets

725
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:22,000
that were

726
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,470
how louisando would think about certain

727
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,799
statements made you know saying things

728
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:32,799
like oh yeah i know lou would support

729
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,520
this as a matter of fact i'm 100

730
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,840
positive he would you know this is from

731
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,080
a different account um

732
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,120
there is no and we've also prefaced this

733
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:45,039
as well when we when we talked about

734
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,840
this

735
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,120
there is no

736
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:50,080
concrete 100 percent proof but he didn't

737
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,360
deny it

738
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,520
and um

739
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,840
and it seems like everybody is that

740
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,960
nobody

741
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:59,600
who is mad about this

742
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:00,640
is

743
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:06,559
do you guys even know everybody

744
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:09,279
it was the worst kept secret on twitter

745
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:11,600
um everybody pretty much knew this was

746
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:16,080
him and again he didn't deny it um so

747
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:16,880
that's

748
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:20,559
and and so

749
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:23,760
you know i think the question now is

750
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,190
thinking out loud about how you feel

751
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,000
about this one way or the other

752
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:36,559
gets you in the hot water with one side

753
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:38,960
of this community there's

754
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:41,919
there's no safe space here it's like

755
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:44,320
you're with blue or you're not and it's

756
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:45,919
like look i

757
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:47,919
if there's anybody in this community

758
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,000
that has actually put skin in the game

759
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,320
and trying to organize

760
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,440
uh get in contact with lawmakers tweet

761
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,039
email write

762
00:30:02,470 --> 00:29:59,679
uh to make a substantive change in the

763
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:02,480
discussion and how it's being discussed

764
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,679
in political circles and on capitol hill

765
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,440
there's no other show in the game that

766
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:09,679
has much as much

767
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:12,159
invested time as our show

768
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,279
and so

769
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:15,120
yeah i'd have to agree with that but i

770
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,720
got to tell you i got to tell you that i

771
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:18,240
have to cut it a little bit short

772
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:19,840
because we have like four other people

773
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,320
um online here but i have to tell you

774
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,200
you know i i myself got into trouble a

775
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,080
while back because i had stood right in

776
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,120
front of someone that uh told me a story

777
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,360
like it was public knowledge

778
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:35,600
uh about the reynolds from forest case

779
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,120
uh that was involved in it and um i

780
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,279
was right there when this person said it

781
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:43,440
um i mentioned it because i thought it

782
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,559
was public knowledge online on one of my

783
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,000
shows and next thing you know i'm

784
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,080
threatened with a lawsuit and uh these

785
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,840
people are coming down on me in all

786
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,320
different directions and uh

787
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:56,399
and uh you know someone i was actually a

788
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,360
really good

789
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:58,880
friend with a really great friend of the

790
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,360
show a excellent researcher has never

791
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,519
spoken to me again and all i was doing

792
00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:05,519
was re repeating the words that came out

793
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:08,480
of of the person's mouth um anyway

794
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,320
that's just one of those things but so

795
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:11,840
yeah i can give you a couple of knocks

796
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,880
but you're doing a great job and so just

797
00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:16,480
quickly tell people how they can find

798
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,159
you

799
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,000
yeah well just before i do i just want

800
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,240
to say you were one of the inspirations

801
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:24,000
as to why we went ahead and asked the

802
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:26,240
question you know because we've got no

803
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:27,919
fear and

804
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,519
and i think that

805
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,519
that was inspirational man because we

806
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,679
were afraid to ask the question last

807
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:35,679
year and the reason why we were afraid

808
00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,200
is because we didn't want to lose access

809
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:39,840
and we didn't want to get yelled at or

810
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,760
and we were afraid of what the reaction

811
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:43,200
was going to be

812
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,640
but we've gotten to the point where just

813
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:47,039
like look we can't be afraid of of

814
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:48,240
engaging

815
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:51,200
our heroes quote-unquote with these

816
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,720
questions just because they're

817
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:54,480
uncomfortable doesn't mean they're not

818
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,720
valid so i just want to give you a quick

819
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:57,919
shout out and thank you for the

820
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,000
inspiration on that and if anybody wants

821
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,159
to come our show or or uh come watch our

822
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,480
show unidentified celebrity review uh

823
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,559
we're gonna be on every friday starting

824
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:08,159
late april uh we're going down to one

825
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:09,840
day a week instead of three times a week

826
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,399
but um we're planning to blame you

827
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,720
putting a little documentary together so

828
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:16,159
we got a lot of stuff planned it's gonna

829
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,519
be a fun year

830
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,519
excellent all right thanks so much

831
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,200
always fun talking to lou

832
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:22,960
and hang in there buddy

833
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:23,919
martin

834
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,799
all right take care so mike has gone new

835
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,559
york city welcome you're welcome to call

836
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:30,559
back mike sorry for the long delay of

837
00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:33,440
steve is next uh i can't remember oh

838
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,799
pasadena steve welcome to the show

839
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:38,720
thank you martin i want to congratulate

840
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:41,279
you for uh a great

841
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,640
show that you have and um

842
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:47,440
i have a platform uh the truth to be

843
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:48,320
told

844
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,000
where i gather uh

845
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,559
ufo information i've had this platform

846
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:54,880
for a couple years where i gather ufo

847
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,760
news daily around the world you know

848
00:33:04,549 --> 00:32:59,840
articles uh

849
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:04,559
podcasts uh from ufo researchers and uh

850
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:06,960
sightings footage

851
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:08,960
anything that comes out on a daily basis

852
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:11,360
uh and uh

853
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,240
i

854
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:14,159
your show

855
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:15,039
is

856
00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:23,440
amazing

857
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:24,799
partner

858
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,519
today has had the history of getting a

859
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:28,880
true path

860
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,159
satin freedmen i mean just uh everybody

861
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,679
in the field

862
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:36,399
and um it's amazing uh

863
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,720
that the the history that we have with

864
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,960
some of these researchers

865
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:41,760
uh

866
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,080
that keeps some of the best researchers

867
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,000
in the field now

868
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,480
and i'm just uh really uh

869
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:50,399
happy to have you

870
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,039
in the ufo community and sharing your

871
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,320
podcast

872
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,159
i have a room that truth be told where i

873
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:58,480
have over 2 000 members

874
00:34:02,470 --> 00:33:59,919
an average of

875
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,480
up to 800 daily that come in and

876
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,480
and check out the news and i'm always

877
00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:07,039
posting your podcast

878
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,639
and uh many people really enjoy it

879
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,240
well thanks so much i really appreciate

880
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,639
that very much

881
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,639
and if i made just a few things that

882
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,520
from

883
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,119
um i'm

884
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,359
new that i get um

885
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,119
you know i'm at

886
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,359
since the early 80s i started gathering

887
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,240
ufo footage and uh

888
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,800
and i'm advocate on ufo footage now back

889
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:32,480
in the early 80s

890
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:35,760
we had bha bhs

891
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,280
uh video which you couldn't really fake

892
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:40,960
back in them days you know

893
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,040
uh that's right yes

894
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:45,119
and so you know we had some wonderful

895
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:48,560
video tape uh the hudson valley uh uh

896
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:50,800
footage is really amazing

897
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,800
and a lot of people a lot of

898
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:56,320
researchers

899
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:57,280
do not

900
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:00,000
look at footage as a very you know

901
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:05,040
important as in solving as evidence i

902
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,839
consider it very important evidence

903
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:10,240
um it's so mainstream with the footage

904
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,680
now because

905
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:14,079
it's so much out there that people are

906
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:15,839
getting that you know people just look

907
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:18,160
at it and and they look at it while it's

908
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:19,680
fake or

909
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:20,880
or they

910
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,440
it's just so a mainstream now

911
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,040
but see the

912
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,240
back in the 40s 50s 60s you catch

913
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:30,160
footage was so important back in the

914
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:31,040
days

915
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,440
i mean when something came up footage i

916
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:35,440
mean it made the headline news

917
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:41,109
that's how important it was and it was

918
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,000
people were just were amazed by it

919
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,560
and so now since it's so mainstream i i

920
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:48,160
i feel that

921
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,880
i've been gathering it i'm able to see

922
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,000
where this

923
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,200
how the ufos are appearing where they're

924
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:56,480
appearing

925
00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:59,119
you know how they look

926
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,079
and uh gathering that kind of data

927
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,800
and um you you know i and i've gotten we

928
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,800
gotten footage some of my favorite

929
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,839
footage

930
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,400
was analyzed and such as the one uh

931
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,640
during the eclipse in mexico where you

932
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:15,119
know a disc was filmed video and you

933
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,880
could see the disc you can't debate it

934
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,880
you can't say that's frankie

935
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,960
clearly show the disc

936
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:23,040
you know and against my flying eyes

937
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,160
we've got

938
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:26,240
proof we've had the evidence right in

939
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,520
front of us

940
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:29,760
but you know uh people forget about it

941
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,880
you know

942
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:32,240
and uh

943
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:35,359
the footage that i i get now i get from

944
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:36,720
brazil

945
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:39,920
is some of the amazing footage uh we're

946
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,839
getting footage from many people that

947
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,680
are in their airplanes now you know

948
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,000
taking footage outside their airplanes

949
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,160
this is because technology has changed

950
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,320
when people use the smartphone

951
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,240
phones and they videotape and they

952
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:55,440
download it rather be youtube or uh or

953
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:57,280
another ufo site

954
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:58,800
and uh

955
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,359
i did i just feel it's very important

956
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,160
in the field and i just really wish

957
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,880
it was more more researchers

958
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:08,720
will

959
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:11,599
follow this evidence uh jaime massan

960
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:13,599
does a great job in getting ufo footy

961
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,880
from mexico

962
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,119
and you know and it just

963
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,680
shocks me how it's not talked about more

964
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:20,960
it's not

965
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:22,960
you know prove

966
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:25,040
that we are not alone

967
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:25,839
and

968
00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:26,720
uh

969
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,720
what you know you can't debate it you

970
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:30,560
can't argue with it and that

971
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:33,680
you know i uh we have come now

972
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:35,440
now to worry

973
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:38,720
that the world knows that ufos are real

974
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,400
and uh

975
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:42,880
now everybody's asking the question the

976
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:45,520
question now you have to speculate well

977
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:48,400
well who's in these ufos where do they

978
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,720
come from now that's speculation up

979
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,640
because we don't really know who's in it

980
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:54,240
i'm always talking to john greenwald

981
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,680
john greenwald would

982
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,839
admit yeah ufos are real there's a

983
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,680
cover-up but he won't say the

984
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,200
extraterrestrial

985
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,960
you know because a lot of researchers

986
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,640
don't want to say that but some

987
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,440
researchers will go that far to say yes

988
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:09,680
you know i know like you mentioned stan

989
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,800
friedman

990
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,119
said you know he that he believed some

991
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:14,880
of them were and i think it's a very

992
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,520
good possibility but um steve thank you

993
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:20,000
so much we have quite a few people

994
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,040
uh

995
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,520
quite a few people hanging on so thanks

996
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:25,119
very much for your your comments and

997
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:26,320
your call

998
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:28,720
uh next we have simone calling from

999
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,270
simone how are you um congratulations

1000
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:38,800
good thank you

1001
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,560
hi congratulations on your 500 so

1002
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:47,270
so where you're out where are you in uh

1003
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,310
um i live in casa grande arizona it's

1004
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:53,520
between

1005
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:57,119
tucson and phoenix

1006
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,760
oh okay yes beautiful areas out there

1007
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,680
just a few months ago really enjoyed it

1008
00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:03,119
it was uh

1009
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,200
spectacular i loved uh going out in the

1010
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,599
desert at night and doing like a sky

1011
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,359
watch that was a lot of fun just

1012
00:39:13,829 --> 00:39:11,119
beautiful

1013
00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,839
and yeah the weather's not you can't get

1014
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:15,359
better weather this time of year than

1015
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,320
out there

1016
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,630
that's correct uh maybe for about

1017
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:22,000
another month and then we'll be about

1018
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:23,920
100 degrees plus

1019
00:39:26,829 --> 00:39:25,280
yeah

1020
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:26,839
the only downside

1021
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,640
yes so uh do you have uh yeah go ahead

1022
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,040
okay i'm sorry a couple of things um i

1023
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,760
have a sighting to share that i've never

1024
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,839
i've not publicly shared um this is the

1025
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,040
first time

1026
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:42,880
and then i have a question following

1027
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,240
that okay sure so um my family and i

1028
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:48,560
we're headed this is

1029
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,640
this is in um 2014 on november 9th at 7

1030
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,400
49 p.m

1031
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,800
my family and i were headed eastbound on

1032
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:58,560
interstate 10

1033
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:01,599
um back to casa grande and

1034
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,800
we saw

1035
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:04,560
i happened to look over and off in the

1036
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,520
distance there were

1037
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:09,440
five but only four showed up in the

1038
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:11,760
picture of um

1039
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,200
these massive lights that were hanging

1040
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:17,200
you know vertically in the sky so you

1041
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:18,480
know it wasn't horizontal it was from

1042
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,119
top to bottom and it almost looked

1043
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:23,119
the object was tipped on its side we

1044
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:24,880
couldn't fully see

1045
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,920
the outline of it just the lights

1046
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,760
were the thing that you know obviously

1047
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,359
stood out

1048
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:32,640
so um

1049
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:35,280
at that time i had an iphone 6 and i

1050
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:37,760
took a series of pictures

1051
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,400
and to prove you know the time stamp and

1052
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,319
the location you know now i have an

1053
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,680
iphone 12 but it shows up on the um

1054
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,520
storyline of the picture

1055
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,920
of the date time and location of the

1056
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,520
photos

1057
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,920
so to this day you know we we've all

1058
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:56,000
been perplexed about what the object is

1059
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,960
we weren't

1060
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,880
there you know seriously

1061
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:00,000
ufo

1062
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,800
believers in the past until that day

1063
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,960
um you know we all have open minds but

1064
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,880
we just didn't really you know pay much

1065
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,800
attention to the subject

1066
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:10,079
so i mean

1067
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:12,400
the pictures with you on your web

1068
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:15,200
website and yeah please do please send

1069
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,880
them and i by the way

1070
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,800
uh our guest that called back andy

1071
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,480
called earlier and he did share the

1072
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,920
images and i'm going to put them up in a

1073
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:23,839
minute but please do that i'd like to

1074
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,480
i'd like to see that and and i know you

1075
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:28,800
have a question to ask but i still want

1076
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,599
to just say something about the

1077
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:33,280
uh what you were talking about this

1078
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:35,040
thing being vertical

1079
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,520
that is not uncommon i've heard that

1080
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:39,440
many times where people will say that

1081
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,680
they'll see a ufo doing something

1082
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,560
completely um irrevers you know i mean

1083
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:46,960
reverse to aerodynamics or whatever

1084
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,440
traveling like sideways against the wind

1085
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,680
or whatever it is uh doesn't make any

1086
00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:53,280
sense to us

1087
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:55,839
uh what what's going on but i have heard

1088
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,640
of the vertical like lights and vertical

1089
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,319
uh object

1090
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:02,560
so it's not uh it's not unusual what

1091
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:06,160
time it was this night time

1092
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,960
this is a night it's at 7 49 and i will

1093
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,880
share i'll screenshot the time stamp and

1094
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:12,400
send that to you you know included with

1095
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:14,000
the pictures i can forward it to you but

1096
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:15,440
it won't show up

1097
00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:16,640
um

1098
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,560
again that's uh just so you know it's

1099
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:20,640
martin let me show you i'm sorry

1100
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:23,760
yeah the email address is martin podcast

1101
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,319
ufo.com so if you want to if you want to

1102
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,440
send that and you said you had a

1103
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,400
question as well

1104
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,359
i do so i've never had the pictures you

1105
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,440
know the photos professionally

1106
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,520
professionally analyzed

1107
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:39,440
which i guess that's what i'm looking to

1108
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,720
do and asking you you know are you or

1109
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:45,599
anybody in the chat aware of a

1110
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,119
person or group that would look at the

1111
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:49,200
pictures you know and

1112
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:51,440
professionally analyze them to see if it

1113
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,720
is and they indeed a uap or if it is not

1114
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,319
um you know

1115
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,480
keep in mind we were going 75-80 miles

1116
00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,400
an hour and you can see in the picture

1117
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,680
that i'm going to send you the lights

1118
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:04,319
the trail of the street lights okay and

1119
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:06,000
other cars on the highway this is the

1120
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:07,920
iphone 6 camera so it's obviously not as

1121
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,880
good as the iphone 12. um but the

1122
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,520
pictures of the or the series of photos

1123
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:15,440
you can see that the

1124
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,680
series of vertical lights in the sky are

1125
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:19,920
stationary and that's what's you know

1126
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:22,319
fascinating i guess about the image

1127
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,359
is the

1128
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,040
unidentified lights are stationary and

1129
00:43:28,790 --> 00:43:26,640
the light there's a trail of the stream

1130
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:28,800
of light you know from the street lights

1131
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:31,520
and traveling 80 miles an hour

1132
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:33,920
yeah yeah well that yeah that happens

1133
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:36,400
but i will i do know someone yes uh mark

1134
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,839
d'antonio he's mufon's video and photo

1135
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,079
analysts and i have his contact

1136
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,480
information and i i could certainly

1137
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:45,680
connect

1138
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:49,920
probably find

1139
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,440
his contact information online but uh

1140
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,359
but i just know him because he's been a

1141
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,359
friend of the show for years and so

1142
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:59,040
that's the person who i would suggest

1143
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,550
awesome thank you so much

1144
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,400
yeah so send that along if you'd like

1145
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:08,960
and also i can like i said i can connect

1146
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,589
okay all right thank you martin have a

1147
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:17,680
great all right thanks for the call all

1148
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,240
right nice okay thank you bye now

1149
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:23,040
all right next we have john from new

1150
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:30,950
hey john

1151
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,319
john welcome to the show

1152
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:37,920
how's it going

1153
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:40,960
i'm doing well how are you

1154
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:44,800
good congratulations on your 500th

1155
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:45,839
thank you

1156
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:50,880
mexico are you john

1157
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:53,440
um do you know a place called

1158
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,160
oho caliente

1159
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:57,839
uh no

1160
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,119
no i don't um i i lived for a short time

1161
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,880
believe it or not and las almost my

1162
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,400
sister and brother-in-law and my

1163
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:06,560
brother-in-law i worked at the lab there

1164
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,280
so i i lived in los alamos so i traveled

1165
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:11,040
around a bit it's a beautiful state

1166
00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:12,079
again for

1167
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:13,599
you know the scenery the deserts the

1168
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,000
hiking all that stuff i loved it

1169
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:18,640
so where can you give uh land landmarks

1170
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,520
near where that is

1171
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:23,040
um it's

1172
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:25,119
i'd say

1173
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,599
about 40 miles from los alamos um you

1174
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,720
can see

1175
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:32,480
the mountains of los alamos in the

1176
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,000
distance and um

1177
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,000
we've kind of had a little bit of

1178
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,640
uranium in our drinking water but

1179
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,560
yeah yeah there's like

1180
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:43,440
um there's there's some springs uh like

1181
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,480
uh uh it's this area is known for a spa

1182
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:48,560
called ojo caliente springs their

1183
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:49,520
natural

1184
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:52,000
spring okay

1185
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,520
people can hang out but that's pretty

1186
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,680
much all that's in the town it's a real

1187
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,760
rural area but it's it's real pretty

1188
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,400
it's um yeah kind of in between los

1189
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,960
alamos and taos i guess you could say

1190
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,480
and now let me ask you that i may have

1191
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,200
been there i hiked up on some hill and

1192
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:09,839
and got into these hot springs um

1193
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:11,599
i don't know of course there's quite

1194
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,119
probably quite a bit of that

1195
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,480
in new mexico

1196
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,240
well yeah there's yeah there's a lot of

1197
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,200
hot springs around um in the area also

1198
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,760
in nevada and some other areas too but

1199
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,280
no yeah there's a lot of hot springs

1200
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,920
kind of out in taos too there's

1201
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:27,599
there's hot springs that i used to go to

1202
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,000
a lot when i was a kid and stuff and um

1203
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,480
yeah no it's it's it's really beautiful

1204
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,400
out here and yeah it's it's an

1205
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,400
interesting and interesting place

1206
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:38,400
definitely no i i actually talked to you

1207
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,359
before

1208
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,920
and you and you um on one of the earlier

1209
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:43,599
shows and you said that you lived in los

1210
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,160
alamos and i and i and i wanted to say

1211
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,079
that's so cool and and there's this

1212
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,640
awesome aspect about that town which is

1213
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,119
the juxtaposition of like

1214
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:55,359
space age technology

1215
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,560
and ancient ruins you know like yes

1216
00:47:02,150 --> 00:46:59,680
swelling up

1217
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:02,160
there and and all that and the cliff

1218
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,520
dwellings yeah

1219
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,440
there's a you see the holes up on the

1220
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,440
side of the cliffs where they used to

1221
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:09,119
climb up and get into these holes i

1222
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,599
actually went into a few of them um and

1223
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:13,599
uh saw some beads which i thought was

1224
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,319
really amazing one time uh but yeah it's

1225
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,079
a beautiful area so do you have like a

1226
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:21,200
ufo si have you had ufo sightings

1227
00:47:23,910 --> 00:47:22,400
i'm trying to remember when you called

1228
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:23,920
before i like

1229
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,800
yeah i well it's okay i mean i grew up

1230
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,400
here and um

1231
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,240
it's interesting

1232
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:32,640
new mexico and other places too in the

1233
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,800
country it's kind of

1234
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:36,319
interwoven

1235
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,160
in the fabric of the culture the ufo

1236
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,880
phenomenon and it's like

1237
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:44,880
you'll see it you'll see it in like

1238
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,359
murals throughout new mexico and of

1239
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,880
course there's roswell and all that

1240
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:51,200
stuff but that's why it's kind of

1241
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,839
embedded in the culture there's so many

1242
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:56,640
aspects of the phenomenon out here

1243
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,720
and i was and i grew up here i was born

1244
00:48:02,390 --> 00:47:59,520
here

1245
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:02,400
and i grew up in taos and taos

1246
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,400
you can see the lights of los alamos in

1247
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,960
the distance from taos and

1248
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,480
it's just always been a part of the

1249
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:10,640
culture i don't know if it's so active

1250
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:13,359
nowadays but when i was a kid there was

1251
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:14,240
people

1252
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:19,200
stories and i i always wanted to see one

1253
00:48:22,230 --> 00:48:20,800
i was always like oh i want to see what

1254
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,240
i want to see what i'm seeing

1255
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,400
and i never saw one until i got older

1256
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:26,640
until i was in my 20s

1257
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,359
but ever since then and it was a crazy

1258
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,319
experience but ever since then it's like

1259
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,400
i've seen a bunch but in different

1260
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,160
states too and

1261
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:38,880
um and i've spent some time over at area

1262
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,520
51 or rachel nevada um camping over

1263
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:43,040
there and i tried living over there for

1264
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,960
a little bit i'm working at the little

1265
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,160
alien

1266
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,800
um but yeah

1267
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,440
yes i'm the little diner there yeah how

1268
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,359
about that yeah

1269
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,680
yeah yeah and there's yeah i mean it's

1270
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:57,839
it's it's part of the culture over there

1271
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,240
too in nevada and um

1272
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,720
it's interesting there's a lot of crazy

1273
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,640
aspects to it and i've been into it for

1274
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,400
a really long time and

1275
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,000
it's one of the subjects that i could

1276
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,920
kind of eat for breakfast that i'm like

1277
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,839
just totally but i've figured out a lot

1278
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:13,839
of stuff so i'm not

1279
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:16,480
super into it anymore but i am but it's

1280
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,079
like i've already figured out a lot of

1281
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:20,160
things so i'm like but it's amazing it's

1282
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,960
like it blows me away just like how

1283
00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:25,200
the craft work and what the propulsion

1284
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:27,640
systems are and what the

1285
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,160
ramifications of all this stuff is but

1286
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,880
also kind of how i believe we've never

1287
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:35,280
been alone like i think we've always

1288
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:36,319
been

1289
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:39,440
watched over or followed or observed or

1290
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,559
whatever

1291
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:42,319
and it's kind of like i thought about it

1292
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,160
recently it's like an ant do you think

1293
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,119
an ant is aware of a person

1294
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,040
that's walking by the anthill or can

1295
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,440
even like fathom what a human being is

1296
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,960
and i've heard of this kind of on your

1297
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:54,559
show too it's like we might not even be

1298
00:49:57,750 --> 00:49:55,920
able to fathom

1299
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:57,760
some of the aspects of the phenomenon

1300
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:58,960
but it's

1301
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:00,880
really interesting and there's a lot of

1302
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,280
interesting aspects to it and one

1303
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:05,680
question i wanted to ask you was did you

1304
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:09,359
think you'd make it to 500

1305
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:10,800
i never really thought about it you know

1306
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,839
there was a time when i don't know maybe

1307
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,520
four or five years ago

1308
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:17,599
where there was some infighting going on

1309
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:19,119
and i got kind of thrown in the middle

1310
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,319
and i thought you know i'm just gonna

1311
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,800
give this thing up uh it's not worth it

1312
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:24,960
and i've always felt like you know if

1313
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,760
something's not enjoyable um and you're

1314
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,119
you're not really getting paid for

1315
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,599
anything you know why do it but these

1316
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,680
these uh i got through that and i'm

1317
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:35,920
really glad i did and i have uh

1318
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:40,160
absolutely no plans on stopping i just i

1319
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,119
just love the topic and still find it

1320
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,359
fascinating find the people that are

1321
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,920
interested in it uh fascinating so it's

1322
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,160
all really good but we have a ton of

1323
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,000
people stacked up waiting behind you

1324
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,319
here john so thank you so much for the

1325
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,480
call

1326
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,079
yeah you're welcome and um it was

1327
00:51:03,030 --> 00:50:59,839
wonderful to talk to you

1328
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,040
you bet okay and uh take care and talk

1329
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,440
to you again sometime

1330
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,760
all right so next we have jim uh but

1331
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,440
jim's gotta hold on just for a minute

1332
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,280
he's calling from british columbia i

1333
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,119
wanna put up these pictures

1334
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:15,440
so everyone can see what andy was

1335
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:16,960
talking about where he thought it might

1336
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:20,079
be some type of portal or something this

1337
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,240
is up on the screen now and i will put

1338
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:24,240
these in the show notes for those of you

1339
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:26,800
listening to the audio part of our show

1340
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,359
you can see here where it does uh

1341
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:31,040
it does change

1342
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:34,240
shape whatever it is uh you know i mean

1343
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:37,359
devil's advocate is it possible that

1344
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,559
it's uh um a black garbage bag i know

1345
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,319
that sounds awful weird but sometimes

1346
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,720
those float in the sky but the thing

1347
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:46,720
that he did say i do remember him saying

1348
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:48,960
is that all of a sudden it vanished so i

1349
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:51,680
don't think that would totally explain

1350
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,720
um

1351
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,800
that especially if he never moved his

1352
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:56,640
eyes away from it so yeah it's an

1353
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:58,079
interesting thing i'm not really sure

1354
00:52:02,150 --> 00:51:59,440
what it is

1355
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,160
but uh yeah it's definitely interesting

1356
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:05,040
so thanks again andy for uh sending that

1357
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:07,760
in so now we're gonna take in uh jim

1358
00:52:12,790 --> 00:52:10,480
from british columbia i believe yes jim

1359
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,800
welcome to the show

1360
00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:14,880
thanks martin so nice to talk to you

1361
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,000
again

1362
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,079
yes thank you having a wonderful time up

1363
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:20,720
here in british columbia

1364
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,440
but

1365
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,599
i must say um you know i really favor

1366
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:24,559
the

1367
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:27,280
experiencers and i'm an experiencer and

1368
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,559
uh

1369
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:30,559
i never went looking for anything you

1370
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,599
know

1371
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:33,359
when my first paranormal experience

1372
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,400
happened

1373
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,119
and then my second one

1374
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,040
and a few other minor ones i probably

1375
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,800
had 40

1376
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,520
paranormal experiences in my life and i

1377
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,079
i never went looking for anything

1378
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,760
but i was having all these experiences

1379
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,160
and i i had to try to put them together

1380
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:52,559
you know and it's it's a lot like my

1381
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:55,520
experiences are a lot parallel to blood

1382
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,720
cell

1383
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:59,200
and people like that

1384
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:02,079
yeah blood chris bledsoe yeah uh uh when

1385
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,720
i listen to him i keep thinking oh yeah

1386
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,559
that happened to me too and then he'll

1387
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:08,559
say some things that never happened to

1388
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:09,280
me

1389
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:22,640
you know when you you have these um

1390
00:53:27,750 --> 00:53:24,880
uh naive people you could call them

1391
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:27,760
which i am i'm i was a i was a naive

1392
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:30,240
person myself you know and and and

1393
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,839
they're not looking for anything and

1394
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,280
then all of a sudden something pops up

1395
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,040
right in front of them you know like

1396
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:37,680
like those guys uh down in the southeast

1397
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:39,680
who are out fishing in the night at

1398
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,720
night and they talk about calvin parker

1399
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:44,720
and um

1400
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,440
yeah calvin and i'm trying to remember

1401
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,599
yeah the pascagoula incident

1402
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:51,040
i can't remember all the names either

1403
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:53,359
but and then there's that chance landry

1404
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:55,040
i think his name was

1405
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:56,400
and these are

1406
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:58,079
naive witnesses and they weren't looking

1407
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,520
for anything and then all of a sudden

1408
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:01,680
something happened that wow

1409
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:03,680
you know i was like that at first too i

1410
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,520
mean i had all these things happening i

1411
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,200
didn't know what the heck was going on

1412
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,520
and uh but but now

1413
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,440
now that i'm older and i'm actually

1414
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:13,599
trying to put together uh

1415
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:15,760
an audio book

1416
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,400
uh i'm i'm remembering all these things

1417
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:20,400
and trying to write them down all steps

1418
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:23,680
and uh there's a pattern in

1419
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,079
it seems a pattern in my life that

1420
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,319
um it's as if

1421
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,480
something's doing this to me

1422
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:32,079
there is a they and i don't even know

1423
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:33,520
who they are

1424
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,440
but they're they're doing it to me you

1425
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:36,960
know i mean they've led me through

1426
00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,760
portals they've

1427
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:41,839
saved my life

1428
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:44,160
they've sent

1429
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:49,680
following me around up in the mountains

1430
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:52,400
and all these things that are

1431
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:55,359
uh you know just just

1432
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:57,520
are uh the only way i can explain them

1433
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,400
all is that you know uh i'm working for

1434
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:02,799
them apparently i've been employed by

1435
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:05,119
the aliens or someday who i don't know

1436
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,880
who they are but

1437
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:08,960
i just pick out the aliens and say okay

1438
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,880
i'm working for the aliens right and i

1439
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,799
have worked very hard too in my life i

1440
00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:15,040
worked very hard as a

1441
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:17,040
an environmental engineer

1442
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,480
and i had to

1443
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,880
go back to university and take courses

1444
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:23,280
and study really hard to upgrade my

1445
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:25,119
engineering degree

1446
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,280
uh to become and to work as an

1447
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,839
environmental engineer and i did this

1448
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,160
and um and i did it for nothing really i

1449
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,720
just did it for my heart and uh

1450
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,559
and i made i got by because i was on a

1451
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,319
disability pitch and i was able to do

1452
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:40,880
that i was free to do whatever i wanted

1453
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:43,760
and to be a whistleblower

1454
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:46,000
in favor of the environment and humanity

1455
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:49,599
and my values are the human species on

1456
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:52,160
earth and and all life on earth these

1457
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,040
are my

1458
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:55,119
my values and

1459
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,799
and

1460
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:58,960
many experiences say well that's what

1461
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,520
the aliens told them they told them like

1462
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:03,440
even those kids in africa they were told

1463
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,280
well

1464
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,359
we're here to tell you you're ruining

1465
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:09,760
your planet you better fix it get off

1466
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:10,720
you know

1467
00:56:15,750 --> 00:56:13,599
better better fix it right well

1468
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,760
that that was one of the first messages

1469
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,520
i got

1470
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:19,520
in one of my first early paranormal

1471
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,720
experiences gosh i was only

1472
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:24,319
21 i think

1473
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:26,960
and i had my first engineering job up on

1474
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:29,280
the spooky spooky queen charlotte

1475
00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:32,400
islands in the real rainforest up there

1476
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:34,480
got a job up there and uh when i finally

1477
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,559
got a day off you know like i worked all

1478
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,400
winter and got one day off and i went

1479
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,559
outside and walked into the old growth

1480
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,680
forest

1481
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,960
and this deer

1482
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,960
appeared beside me in in this

1483
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,040
undergrowth lake i i'd had to push my

1484
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:48,799
way into this undergrowth it was so

1485
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,599
thick

1486
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:51,920
and i turned i i pushed my way into the

1487
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:53,440
undergrowth i turned around looked back

1488
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:55,599
at the town i was living in

1489
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,480
this mining camp you know and i'm

1490
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:00,160
looking at the camp and i'm thinking in

1491
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,319
my mind i'm thinking gosh that's ugly we

1492
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:04,799
are making such a mess here of this this

1493
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:07,040
beautiful forest eh because we

1494
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:08,799
uh put a mine

1495
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:10,559
in the middle of a forest

1496
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,680
and we just spew through our garbage all

1497
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,520
over the place we polluted the ocean so

1498
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:17,520
you couldn't even catch a fish anymore

1499
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,119
it was horrendous what we were doing

1500
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:21,920
there and uh and i was participating in

1501
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:24,400
it i was you know a full participant as

1502
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:25,280
a

1503
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,119
me in this undergrowth suddenly

1504
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:53,440
and i looked down at the deer

1505
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,760
and its eye turned and looked up at me

1506
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:57,839
and i had this big black eye

1507
00:58:02,150 --> 00:58:00,480
all black enormous i mean i was

1508
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,160
captivated by this eye it was so

1509
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:04,079
beautiful right and the deer was so

1510
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,040
beautiful and it looked up at me

1511
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:09,280
and i got this message like yeah it's

1512
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,720
really ugly

1513
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,680
right

1514
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:13,440
because i was looking at the scene and i

1515
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,640
was thinking this is ugly as ugly can be

1516
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:18,319
the the the

1517
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:20,480
deer or alien appeared beside me with a

1518
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:22,079
big black eye looked me right now and

1519
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,359
said yeah

1520
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,280
this is really ugly you got to do

1521
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,119
something about it right

1522
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:29,440
so then i turned back and i looked at

1523
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:31,920
the the town and the ugliness and the

1524
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:33,520
rustiness all that

1525
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,119
i looked at that again and then i looked

1526
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,960
back and the deer was gone

1527
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:39,280
it just was gone

1528
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,240
and

1529
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,720
it made no sound coming or going

1530
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:44,319
it was

1531
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,079
right beside me

1532
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,559
you know and i mean

1533
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:51,040
looking back on that uh i i could

1534
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,760
reanalyze that and say well that was a

1535
00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:56,160
an alien that was uh telling me what i

1536
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:58,079
got to do and and and so i worked in

1537
00:59:01,829 --> 00:59:00,000
that mine for a while and i had a

1538
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,839
establishment engineering career for

1539
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,359
about 10 years and then i became

1540
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,440
disabled and went on a disability

1541
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,920
pension moved out of the city uh

1542
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:09,599
went back to university and became an

1543
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:10,960
environmental engineer and i've worked

1544
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,880
at that i put in

1545
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:14,240
25

1546
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:17,200
years of hard work and now that i'm

1547
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:19,839
retired i'm i'm only working half time

1548
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:22,559
which for me is like eight hours a day

1549
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:24,799
on my environmental engineering i'm

1550
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,680
still working on it but um yeah and and

1551
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:29,599
then and then you see

1552
00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,880
now

1553
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:32,640
and then there was another event that

1554
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,480
occurred that was very significant early

1555
00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,160
on in my life and that's

1556
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,799
when i was about 26 i went out for a

1557
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,960
motorcycle ride

1558
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:43,440
and without going into details my life

1559
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:46,400
was saved by a paranormal event

1560
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:48,400
i should have died but i didn't die and

1561
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,440
it was definitely paranormal what

1562
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:54,160
the paranormal thing about it was that

1563
01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:57,040
a voice yelled in my left ear

1564
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,079
and i've never before or since had a

1565
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:02,640
voice yelling in my ear ever just that

1566
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:03,680
one time

1567
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:05,440
and the voice that yelled in my ear was

1568
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:08,240
actually my own voice

1569
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,440
that voice

1570
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:11,520
told me what to do i did it instantly i

1571
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,000
i did i just obeyed the voice without

1572
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,079
thinking and that's what saved my life

1573
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:18,240
that day or i would have been dead for

1574
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:21,760
sure uh and uh so i had to after that

1575
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,079
event i i went home

1576
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,240
with my head bowed down

1577
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,559
going over thinking over

1578
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:31,200
what the heck is going on here you know

1579
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,480
what

1580
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:34,640
how how can these things happen and i

1581
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,440
had to at that time you see i had to

1582
01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:40,160
uh drop my belief system

1583
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:42,319
at the time which was scientific atheism

1584
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:44,880
and i had to drop that down a hole and

1585
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:47,920
open up my mind to all things you know

1586
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:49,440
because my life had been saved and i

1587
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:51,359
mean i

1588
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:53,599
i felt compelled to work

1589
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:55,520
for whoever saved my life i mean who

1590
01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:57,040
wouldn't you know

1591
01:01:02,069 --> 01:00:58,960
who want you know who wouldn't want to

1592
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,079
do that and uh and that's kind of what i

1593
01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:04,000
did

1594
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:05,200
and i

1595
01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:06,079
now

1596
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:09,119
going to another topic

1597
01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:10,400
i really like to listen to the

1598
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,839
experiencers

1599
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:13,599
most of all that's the most valuable

1600
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:15,119
thing to me

1601
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:17,359
uh because that's uh

1602
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:20,079
what they're saying their testimony

1603
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,880
is evidence in a court of law

1604
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:24,960
like bledsoe for example

1605
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,839
if he went into a court of law and and

1606
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,760
and gave testimony

1607
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,680
given his uh

1608
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,359
experience and position in society and

1609
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:35,920
so on that would be considered

1610
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,400
testimony valid testimony or evidence in

1611
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:40,559
a court of law and same with me actually

1612
01:01:46,789 --> 01:01:44,079
i have given testimony in a court of law

1613
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:46,799
as an expert witness as an engineer an

1614
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:49,520
expert witness i gave testimony into a

1615
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:52,720
legal proceedings called an inquiry so a

1616
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:55,599
person's words

1617
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,200
are evidence

1618
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,760
in a court of law maybe not scientific

1619
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:01,839
evidence maybe not

1620
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,240
but but evidence yes and people throw

1621
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:06,480
that word evidence around and it's very

1622
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,480
important in these things

1623
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:10,160
we're talking about here

1624
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:11,680
and people throw that word around and

1625
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:14,000
never differentiate between scientific

1626
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:16,240
evidence and legal evidence but

1627
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:18,720
both are valid forms of evidence and

1628
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:21,680
chris bledsoe's testimony is evidence so

1629
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:23,440
people who say oh there's no evidence

1630
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:25,440
yes there is evidence i'm sorry i have

1631
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,559
to tell them there is evidence and

1632
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:30,559
there's a there's a lot more evidence to

1633
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:31,599
like there's

1634
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:35,680
i've been watching uh uncharted x on

1635
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:38,319
on youtube and this is about ancient

1636
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,440
aliens

1637
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:41,760
but it's done in a very

1638
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:44,000
scientific way and i would really like

1639
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,359
to go

1640
01:02:49,109 --> 01:02:47,359
go with that guy on his tour there and

1641
01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,119
provide

1642
01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:51,760
my input into it because um i'm a

1643
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:53,680
materials engineer

1644
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,240
and so i look at those materials in

1645
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:58,319
egypt

1646
01:03:02,870 --> 01:03:00,319
and i have to say we can't make that

1647
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:02,880
today like for example the stone jars

1648
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:05,839
are phenomenal we simply could not make

1649
01:03:09,430 --> 01:03:07,680
that today and i'm saying that as a

1650
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:09,440
materials engineer

1651
01:03:13,750 --> 01:03:11,920
uh with with knowledge of how we make

1652
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:13,760
stuff out of stuff you know that's what

1653
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:14,799
i know

1654
01:03:19,349 --> 01:03:17,520
i've been you know upgrading my my my

1655
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:19,359
original degree in engineering by

1656
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:20,960
studying um

1657
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:23,760
the new jet engine materials and the uh

1658
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:27,119
they called ceramic nano composites

1659
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:28,640
new materials and i'm wondering i'm

1660
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:30,720
looking at that i'm wondering could that

1661
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:31,520
be

1662
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:35,280
from the back engineering

1663
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,000
from alien materials and this is the

1664
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,559
kind of thing i'm considering

1665
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,720
and it could be or it could not be i

1666
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:44,480
don't know that that's not

1667
01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:46,240
i can't say for sure

1668
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:48,240
but but the real evidence are those

1669
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,880
stone jars in egypt because seriously we

1670
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:52,480
can't make that today

1671
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,920
we just couldn't do it and there's a lot

1672
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:55,680
of other things they did there in

1673
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:59,039
earlier egypt that's uh beyond our

1674
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,160
current

1675
01:04:04,630 --> 01:04:03,119
abilities okay and i'll just shut up now

1676
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:04,640
we're all gone

1677
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:07,200
all right hey hey jim uh thank thank you

1678
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:10,319
very much uh for the call uh i really

1679
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:12,319
appreciate it i'm sorry was it it's not

1680
01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:14,000
jim is it

1681
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:16,240
i got names fixed up yeah okay jim

1682
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:18,160
thanks for the call yeah i do have to

1683
01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:21,440
say that the stone uh stone jar would be

1684
01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:24,400
extremely hard to hollow out for sure so

1685
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:26,960
next uh we have uh mark is on the line

1686
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,200
and i'm hoping that mike and dan call

1687
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:31,280
back they held for a long time and it'd

1688
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:33,839
be nice uh please do call back but

1689
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,079
before that i want to just put up these

1690
01:04:39,910 --> 01:04:38,640
pictures that simone who spoke from

1691
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:39,920
arizona

1692
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:42,720
she did send these and these are some of

1693
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:45,599
the pictures that she sent in and again

1694
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:47,200
i'll put these in the show notes here's

1695
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:48,079
the

1696
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,119
right here and uh so yeah check that out

1697
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:56,960
here's a time stamp of when she did that

1698
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:58,720
but it doesn't really mean too much as

1699
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:01,440
far as the time but i think if this one

1700
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,000
right here is a pretty interesting image

1701
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:06,720
to what it was have no idea uh maybe

1702
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:09,119
mark d'antonio someone like that can

1703
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:12,559
figure that out so mark uh welcome to

1704
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:13,920
the show

1705
01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:16,319
up we lost mark

1706
01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:18,240
so everyone hung up we had three people

1707
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:21,200
on and they all uh they all had it they

1708
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:22,960
they had to uh

1709
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:24,480
they didn't want to wait and that's kind

1710
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:25,920
of what happens when you're calling in

1711
01:05:29,910 --> 01:05:28,240
on these call-in shows unfortunately if

1712
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:29,920
you're not right up you're going to have

1713
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,599
to be patient and just wait and hang in

1714
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,240
for when you can actually talk so he

1715
01:05:40,710 --> 01:05:38,319
called back we have mark thanks for

1716
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:40,720
calling back mark uh you are live on the

1717
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:42,480
air right now

1718
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,319
mr willis how are you

1719
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:46,160
i'm doing well thank you thank you for

1720
01:05:50,230 --> 01:05:47,760
calling cool

1721
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:50,240
thank you um so i've been dying to get

1722
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,960
this off my chest you for years um big

1723
01:05:57,430 --> 01:05:54,960
time fan who sure helps me get to sleep

1724
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:57,440
at night after work i'm not an engineer

1725
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,390
so in 1997 i was 16 years old um i'm

1726
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:06,640
gonna get right to the point

1727
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:08,799
we were um i was driving home from

1728
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:11,760
school with my father you picked me up

1729
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:12,880
and uh

1730
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:14,960
it was just getting dark at night this

1731
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,200
was the same night

1732
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:19,200
is the phoenix lights had happened and

1733
01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,160
uh

1734
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:22,640
i had looked off into the distance

1735
01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:24,160
and can you hear me

1736
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:26,079
yeah you're saying this is the same like

1737
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:29,440
march 13th 1997.

1738
01:06:34,789 --> 01:06:31,920
i'm 41 years old now yeah march 13th

1739
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:34,799
1997. i had gotten in trouble at school

1740
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:36,960
and my father was yelling at me

1741
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:39,680
uh for getting in trouble and you know i

1742
01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:41,359
got real awkward and quiet in the car

1743
01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:43,119
and i looked off in the distance and i

1744
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:45,680
go oh look at the ufo now i said that

1745
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:47,839
because growing up he had me listening

1746
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:50,400
to art bell coast to coast

1747
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,599
so anytime we saw an airplane or a

1748
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:55,680
helicopter we'd say it could be a

1749
01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:58,640
balloon and we'd go oh look at the ufo

1750
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,319
and i'll never forget he said now's not

1751
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,240
the time for jokes and i'm looking at

1752
01:07:06,309 --> 01:07:04,480
this and i saw three orange lights

1753
01:07:08,549 --> 01:07:06,319
really low about two miles off in the

1754
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,559
distance and they weren't moving

1755
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:10,160
and i was like no seriously doesn't that

1756
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:12,160
look kind of weird and

1757
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:13,680
you know we were on route 20 in

1758
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:15,920
massachusetts heading west

1759
01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:18,000
and i know right where it is yeah

1760
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:19,039
yep

1761
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,280
right right by westfield massachusetts i

1762
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:23,039
live in russell

1763
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,400
so

1764
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,640
as we're getting closer he's even like

1765
01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:28,400
what the hell is this

1766
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:29,599
and

1767
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:31,680
okay so it was definitely a black

1768
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:34,720
triangle we had drove right underneath

1769
01:07:40,549 --> 01:07:35,440
it

1770
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:40,559
maybe 150 feet at the most above

1771
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,319
the ground and we were like i said

1772
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,960
driving for about a mile underneath it

1773
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:48,240
and we got out

1774
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:50,240
there was three orange lights on each

1775
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,520
tip

1776
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,359
and there was one orange in the middle

1777
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:55,280
we pulled over and we're directly

1778
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:57,680
underneath the middle of this thing

1779
01:08:03,029 --> 01:07:58,720
and

1780
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:03,039
the black part it was a solid craft it

1781
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,039
wasn't just three orange orbs with one

1782
01:08:09,750 --> 01:08:07,839
of them or excuse me four orange orbs

1783
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:09,760
there was a solid mass to it and it was

1784
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,280
gunmetal black

1785
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:13,200
but it almost had this like cloaking

1786
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,760
effect where it was trying to mimic the

1787
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:17,520
sky above it because it blacked out the

1788
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,080
stars it was just the strangest thing

1789
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:22,319
and i was underneath the middle orange

1790
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:23,199
light

1791
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:24,960
and it looked like

1792
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:27,520
a creamsicle like white and orange but

1793
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:29,359
it was like alive and it was liquid and

1794
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,640
i remember it didn't cast a shadow on us

1795
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:34,319
we got we were out of the car looking at

1796
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,239
this thing for a total of five seconds

1797
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,199
and we both had a very uneasy like i was

1798
01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:40,880
scared feeling

1799
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:42,880
so we looked at each other and let's get

1800
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:44,960
out of here we got in the car and when

1801
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:47,279
we looked out the um

1802
01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:48,960
windshield because you could see it we

1803
01:08:51,990 --> 01:08:50,560
were directly underneath it we pulled up

1804
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:52,000
you could see it from the windshield so

1805
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,600
we instinctively looked out the

1806
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,080
windshield to keep looking at it almost

1807
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,080
and advantage and the fin

1808
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:00,640
it just completely disappeared

1809
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:03,279
wow a lot of people talk about that

1810
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:05,839
something just absolutely disappearing

1811
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:08,080
not seeing it shoot off in a direction

1812
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:09,759
or anything just gone

1813
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:10,640
which is

1814
01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:13,920
another fascinating aspect

1815
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:17,359
and um the crazy thing about it was

1816
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:19,440
was the next day on the news

1817
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,719
you know

1818
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:22,159
there was things about the phoenix

1819
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,920
lights and i remember them hearing there

1820
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:25,839
was reports of them in the northeast

1821
01:09:29,590 --> 01:09:27,359
that same night

1822
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,600
so i think it was more of and i was i

1823
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:31,199
listened to your show with tom king the

1824
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:32,839
other night

1825
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,480
yes

1826
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,279
i remember hearing how he said

1827
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:39,040
the phoenix lights weren't the major

1828
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:41,120
event it was the las vegas nights the

1829
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:42,560
night before

1830
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,199
i've been i've been following foes since

1831
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:47,279
this happened to me i'm fascinated with

1832
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,960
it i went out to phoenix last year just

1833
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:51,040
to hope to see another triangle

1834
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:52,799
i didn't but

1835
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,400
you know i got to watch some cubs

1836
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,719
training at the least but anyway

1837
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:58,159
um

1838
01:10:03,189 --> 01:10:00,800
it's you know so i have a anytime you

1839
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:03,199
see these videos that where people

1840
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,120
claim to like

1841
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:06,960
you know see a triangle all you see in

1842
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:09,840
the video because is the three points of

1843
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:12,239
light these things are so dark that even

1844
01:10:16,470 --> 01:10:14,960
a iphone couldn't catch the if they have

1845
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,480
a cloaking device

1846
01:10:21,270 --> 01:10:18,800
how's the cell phone going to catch that

1847
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:21,280
yeah so the three lights every and i

1848
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:22,719
always notice you see these lights in

1849
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:24,880
triangle formation these are these black

1850
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:26,560
triangles and they are not us they're

1851
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:29,679
not tr3bs or whatever the hell they are

1852
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:31,600
this thing was at least two miles in

1853
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:33,440
diameter

1854
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:35,679
it was massive that's a massive

1855
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:38,400
understatement for what i saw like

1856
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:40,239
massive is small compared to what i've

1857
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:41,840
experienced

1858
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,400
just so just it's it's so hard to tell

1859
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:46,560
the size of something without being able

1860
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:50,080
to triangulate so um how

1861
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:51,040
were you

1862
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:52,640
saying that this thing was low enough

1863
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:55,520
that it felt like it was that big

1864
01:11:08,310 --> 01:10:56,400
i

1865
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,320
hard enough

1866
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:09,520
yeah

1867
01:11:13,910 --> 01:11:10,840
how about that

1868
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:13,920
wow every time i drive by that i drive

1869
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,480
on that same stretch of road every day

1870
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:17,920
in the night time when i'm coming home

1871
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:19,520
from work

1872
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:21,840
i kind of want to see it again but

1873
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:23,679
one thing i've done before in the past

1874
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:25,840
is i've ran it over so many times in my

1875
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:29,120
mind that i know where because you know

1876
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:31,920
it's a triangular shape i remember when

1877
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:34,320
we were driving towards it it getting

1878
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:36,320
bigger and bigger and bigger

1879
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:37,440
and

1880
01:11:44,229 --> 01:11:42,159
where we got out of the car to look at

1881
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,239
is a little convenience store

1882
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,320
nobody else was around it was crazy

1883
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,719
because no one else saw it but

1884
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:51,120
at that point i was in the middle of it

1885
01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:53,360
so i know where it began

1886
01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:55,040
and i know that where we stopped to get

1887
01:11:57,750 --> 01:11:56,640
out and look at was the middle of it i

1888
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:57,760
remember

1889
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,159
looking in a 360 expanse

1890
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:02,400
there was one part of it because where

1891
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:04,719
the trees you couldn't see

1892
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,440
one of the orange orbs anymore but the

1893
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:09,360
other one was way out by the turnpike

1894
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:11,760
bridge and that's another mile so

1895
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,920
i've triangulated it in my head and i'm

1896
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:15,600
no mathematician

1897
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:18,000
but i do remember

1898
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:19,360
specifically

1899
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:21,120
you know the dimensions of how high

1900
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:23,199
above it was me and where i began to

1901
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,640
notice it and

1902
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,440
where we began to drive underneath it

1903
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:29,760
and uh you know

1904
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:30,719
it's

1905
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:35,679
what was that pardon me i'm sorry about

1906
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:36,560
that

1907
01:12:42,870 --> 01:12:39,840
uh yeah i mean it makes you think um

1908
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:42,880
uh especially back in 1997

1909
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:44,800
did we have this type of technology if

1910
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,120
we did why wouldn't we know about it now

1911
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:49,040
type of thing but what happened on the

1912
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,400
ride home from there

1913
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:52,960
what was the conversation like

1914
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:56,400
you know what's crazy is that um

1915
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,440
we i we both were like kind of in the

1916
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:01,120
state of awe

1917
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:03,280
and he was supposed to be in trouble at

1918
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,440
school i was a little delinquent

1919
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,960
but

1920
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:09,280
um

1921
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,560
we kind of

1922
01:13:16,149 --> 01:13:12,880
we absorbed it and then

1923
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:16,159
i i was in so much trouble as a teenager

1924
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:18,400
that year particularly

1925
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:19,520
that

1926
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:25,199
i was i was i'm

1927
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:27,920
my life is good now but as a kid i was

1928
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,920
in and out of trouble

1929
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,440
so

1930
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:33,760
i it what's funny is

1931
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:35,840
20 years gone by and you know i lived a

1932
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:38,239
very full life i've been around

1933
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,199
and it really didn't start hitting me

1934
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:44,400
until about maybe 15 years ago like holy

1935
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:45,920
you know i don't know if you can swear

1936
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,080
on here so i didn't but i was just

1937
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:50,239
i was amazed that i was able to witness

1938
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:53,199
something it confirmed

1939
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:54,480
that there are

1940
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:57,120
you know we are being visited

1941
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:58,880
nobody can tell me otherwise so when

1942
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,800
like i when i share this experience with

1943
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,960
people i tell them a lot of people are

1944
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:05,040
you know the majority of americans

1945
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:07,040
believe in ufos so i don't really catch

1946
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,400
a lot of flack but you get the

1947
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:09,840
occasional

1948
01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:12,000
you know hillbilly up here that'll go oh

1949
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,040
you're crazy you don't have people and

1950
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:17,679
you know i feel sorry for them

1951
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,560
because

1952
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:20,480
it's unshakable once you really

1953
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:22,480
experience it

1954
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,600
you know

1955
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,440
and i'm a christian i believe the

1956
01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:27,600
universe works in a million different

1957
01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:30,000
ways so it's it's not a question of god

1958
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:32,159
and demons it's

1959
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:34,239
the the universe is big there's a lot of

1960
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,679
mysteries and this is just one of them

1961
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:37,280
and it's amazing but

1962
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,280
what was crazy was i did have other

1963
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,520
experiences after that

1964
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:43,679
i've had three experiences but that was

1965
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:45,760
the one no doubter

1966
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:47,520
so i don't know i don't want to be doing

1967
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:50,080
myself cooking dinner and everything too

1968
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:52,320
but i really just wanted to go and share

1969
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:53,360
that

1970
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:58,880
fascinating uh especially the size of it

1971
01:15:02,950 --> 01:14:59,600
and

1972
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:02,960
just

1973
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:09,360
much about it but that doesn't and why

1974
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:11,120
should that surprise me you know i mean

1975
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:12,719
it seems like that would be all over the

1976
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:14,080
news when you see something like that

1977
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,840
wouldn't you think that

1978
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,760
well there was actually a little flap

1979
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:20,159
back in massachusetts again um

1980
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:24,239
i want to say 2013 a lot there was um a

1981
01:15:29,430 --> 01:15:26,159
huge black triangle was spotted over

1982
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:29,440
amherst massachusetts by umass

1983
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:30,640
and

1984
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:35,600
i could name three people that i know

1985
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:37,120
right now that have seen these triangles

1986
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,480
out here

1987
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,640
well it's funny that you mentioned that

1988
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:42,560
because a friend of mine had an

1989
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:45,600
experience right there at umass um you

1990
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:46,640
know so

1991
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:48,719
uh this is i guess there's quite a bit

1992
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:50,080
going on there from what i've i've

1993
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:51,440
looked into it there's quite a bit going

1994
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:53,840
on in that area for some reason

1995
01:15:59,030 --> 01:15:56,800
anyway i've been at hudson valley so you

1996
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:59,040
know upstate new york's right across

1997
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,800
great barrington so i always head up

1998
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:02,320
that way and

1999
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:04,800
it's uh there's definitely some magic up

2000
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,280
here in the skies but anyway hey um

2001
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,520
again thank you for your time man yeah

2002
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,040
thank you

2003
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:13,440
all right you take care mark all right

2004
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:16,640
so next take care all right next we have

2005
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:20,159
adriel uh calling from l.a uh adriel

2006
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:22,320
welcome to the show

2007
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:24,560
hi how are you thank you for having me

2008
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:31,350
it's a daily thing that happens with me

2009
01:16:36,229 --> 01:16:33,040
this uh

2010
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:36,239
uh let me tell you how it started i

2011
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:38,159
i was actually praying to god three and

2012
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:40,000
a half years ago in my garage out loud

2013
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:41,920
the way i was taught growing up

2014
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,400
asking for guidance and

2015
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:46,320
i had this overwhelming sensation of

2016
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:47,440
love

2017
01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:49,920
i mean big time like

2018
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:51,600
like god was hearing me and was in the

2019
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:53,120
garage and

2020
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,719
i grew up catholic

2021
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:56,719
i wasn't like super religious like i

2022
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:58,080
didn't do that my whole life i just

2023
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:59,440
started doing that because i wanted to

2024
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,280
start a new career and i was

2025
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:03,280
i was wondering what i should do and i

2026
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,960
was asking for guidance

2027
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:06,880
i had this feeling like somebody had

2028
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,400
their hand over my heart and was

2029
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,239
squeezing my heart

2030
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,719
i know now that my phone sends me stuff

2031
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:13,679
that

2032
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:17,760
long as i talk about it around the phone

2033
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:20,480
the phone will send you to

2034
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,960
what you're looking for i know that now

2035
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:25,360
but then my phone sent me to these

2036
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:27,280
programs

2037
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,360
that uh

2038
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:31,440
uh one was called not your everyday

2039
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:33,280
sunday program and it had a couple

2040
01:17:37,510 --> 01:17:35,920
gentlemen that were

2041
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:37,520
that were uh

2042
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,280
talking about the same things that i was

2043
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:41,360
you know uh uh stuff that was happening

2044
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:44,080
in our in our galaxy with uh the wobble

2045
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:46,960
of the planet and and uh the kuiper belt

2046
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:48,800
the asteroid belt all kinds of things

2047
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:53,120
that the sky was really red 2017-2019

2048
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,840
and i was and i had a friend at the same

2049
01:17:59,830 --> 01:17:57,600
time i'm praying for god and sending me

2050
01:18:01,110 --> 01:17:59,840
to this program where these gentlemen

2051
01:18:03,990 --> 01:18:01,120
are

2052
01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:04,000
using dowsing rods and i was i was

2053
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:05,280
asking why

2054
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,440
it is that god can hear our thoughts or

2055
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,880
knows what we're thinking

2056
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:10,480
and we can communicate our prayers to

2057
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:12,960
god but that god can't answer us we have

2058
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:14,480
to wait for a sign

2059
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,640
and my phone sent me to this program

2060
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:18,239
where these gentlemen were using dowsing

2061
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:20,000
rods and they were getting answers from

2062
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,360
source

2063
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,360
and i kept getting this squeezing around

2064
01:18:26,550 --> 01:18:25,199
my heart like i'm sending you to this

2065
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,560
program to show you how you can

2066
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:28,239
communicate with me

2067
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,840
and like i said there was this

2068
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:31,360
overwhelming sensation of love and

2069
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,880
everything happened like in the

2070
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:34,880
synchronicities were just off the hook

2071
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:37,920
it was it was too crazy to be true

2072
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:40,880
almost and uh every single day it was

2073
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:42,880
something happening and that same

2074
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:45,600
sensation same feeling i thought i was

2075
01:18:50,470 --> 01:18:47,840
like god was there with me and walking

2076
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,480
with me i had so much love i was like

2077
01:18:53,830 --> 01:18:52,400
tearing up and

2078
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:53,840
these gentlemen were asking the same

2079
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:55,600
questions about the skies that i was and

2080
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,280
one of them said you know there ought to

2081
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:59,679
be somebody talking to the planet

2082
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:01,120
the native americans believed that

2083
01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:03,040
mother earth was alive and they would

2084
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:05,120
talk to mother earth and get get answers

2085
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:06,960
from her and the the egyptians believed

2086
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:09,120
that the sun was their god

2087
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:10,640
based on that what if all planets were

2088
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:12,320
sentient beings somebody ought to be

2089
01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:13,440
talking to the planets because there's

2090
01:19:17,510 --> 01:19:15,920
something going on in our skies

2091
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:17,520
and

2092
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:19,760
a little man from the uk his name was

2093
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,840
patrick garrett heard them and i'm

2094
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:23,840
watching this play out

2095
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,640
and he was working with a pendulum

2096
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:28,800
and he asked source he was asking source

2097
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:30,239
as well he asked source if he could talk

2098
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,719
to the planets and did and text in hey i

2099
01:19:35,350 --> 01:19:34,480
just spoke with jupiter

2100
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:35,360
and

2101
01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:36,719
uh the gentleman said well you got to

2102
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:38,480
come on the program tomorrow and see you

2103
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:41,280
know let's check that out and so he did

2104
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:43,040
and he set up a camera above his

2105
01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,640
pendulum and started talking to source

2106
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:46,560
asking if he had a strong connection

2107
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:48,159
with source source said yes can i speak

2108
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:50,239
to the planets source said yes and they

2109
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:52,000
made a show of it for like three months

2110
01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:53,440
i watched

2111
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:56,320
answers being put out there that were

2112
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:58,000
like scientific answers that weren't

2113
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:59,679
answered yet and then i'd see it in the

2114
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:01,840
paper in the news a couple of days later

2115
01:20:05,189 --> 01:20:03,440
like i said the synchronicities were off

2116
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:05,199
the hook and then

2117
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:07,440
it went from talking with the planets to

2118
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:09,440
people calling in and asking if source

2119
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:11,520
had a message for them

2120
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,400
because

2121
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:13,920
they were having

2122
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:16,960
experiences is what i what i imagine now

2123
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:18,639
you know looking back on it

2124
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,199
and and source was telling them yes the

2125
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,199
lady that you see and the red dress in

2126
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:25,199
your dreams is you in a past life blah

2127
01:20:29,750 --> 01:20:27,679
blah blah blah blah and the people that

2128
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,760
were that were texting in to ask source

2129
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:31,440
of source had a message for them all of

2130
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:33,840
them had great reactions there was no

2131
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:35,679
nothing evil or anything coming through

2132
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:43,270
whoops

2133
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:44,719
say that again

2134
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:50,709
i was filled with so much love and i

2135
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:51,840
thought that i was chilling with god

2136
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:55,280
that i skateboard right and uh i'm 52.

2137
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:57,199
every night from my exercise i go out to

2138
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:59,040
park and i skate and before my skate

2139
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,120
session i was saying this little prayer

2140
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:03,199
while i was i was invoking love in favor

2141
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:04,880
of the universe saying my name is adriel

2142
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:07,199
galvez i'm sending love and favor to

2143
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:08,960
everyone out there the good the bad the

2144
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:10,159
ugly

2145
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:12,639
god jesus satan the devil everyone

2146
01:21:17,350 --> 01:21:15,040
because i feel that everyone deserves

2147
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,360
love and i think that's what god wants

2148
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:19,440
wants to have everybody

2149
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:21,120
you know showing love

2150
01:21:24,390 --> 01:21:22,639
when you get this this is coming to you

2151
01:21:26,950 --> 01:21:24,400
in the form of a wave

2152
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:26,960
uh you'll see it coming across your your

2153
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:28,719
to you and when when it gets to you i

2154
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:30,560
want you to accept it turn your neighbor

2155
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:32,239
invoke love and favor and then turn back

2156
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,960
this way to mother earth and the sun and

2157
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:36,960
the milky way galaxy because uh

2158
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:38,239
we're having some issues here in our

2159
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:40,080
skies and we might need some help

2160
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:42,080
i was taking pictures of the skies in

2161
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,560
2019 and it almost looked like there was

2162
01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:47,120
two sunsets the skies were so red i'd

2163
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,120
never seen them that red in my life and

2164
01:21:53,030 --> 01:21:50,960
i mentioned it to a friend and she told

2165
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:53,040
me maybe it's nibiru coming through or

2166
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:54,080
nibiru

2167
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:57,199
and then i started looking it up and it

2168
01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:58,800
sort of went with the kuiper belt the

2169
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:01,120
asteroid belt the extinction of the

2170
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,800
dinosaurs the glacial impacts no flood

2171
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:06,480
all of that and it was starting to fall

2172
01:22:10,629 --> 01:22:08,719
into place like like maybe we were lied

2173
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,639
to in religion and things didn't happen

2174
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:12,719
quite the way they say you know and i

2175
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:14,320
started putting things together and then

2176
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:17,199
i i was like i said i was praying to god

2177
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:18,960
out loud and i started questioning god

2178
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:20,800
why because it looked like that's what

2179
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,000
was happening

2180
01:22:26,310 --> 01:22:24,480
and uh that that nibiru was coming

2181
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,320
through or something so i started asking

2182
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,639
god why god has to destroy the earth or

2183
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:30,239
have something run into it every once in

2184
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:31,360
a while

2185
01:22:39,030 --> 01:22:33,040
and

2186
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:39,040
uh the gentleman you know i i wanted

2187
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:41,600
answers so i i text into the program

2188
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,360
after like two months of watching it and

2189
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,440
all of this love and favor and i said

2190
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:47,440
you know i'm gonna call i'm gonna text

2191
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:49,040
in and see if you have a message for me

2192
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:51,840
i'm taking you source as god you know

2193
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:54,239
because that's what it felt like that

2194
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:55,679
thing was squeezing my heart like go

2195
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,520
with your heart go with your heart and

2196
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:59,440
so i text into the show and i says the

2197
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:01,600
source have a message for me

2198
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,440
and by that time it had turned into ask

2199
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:05,840
the pendulum and the dowsing rods with

2200
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:10,629
trick said i was the first one or i was

2201
01:23:14,310 --> 01:23:13,120
the fourth one to ask that that day and

2202
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:14,320
he goes you know you all ought to make

2203
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:15,760
your own pendulums we all have the

2204
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:18,239
ability to do this and i went

2205
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:20,159
that's why god was leading me to that

2206
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,320
program this is how i can communicate

2207
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,800
with god so i took that and then he

2208
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:26,400
started the session and said adriel

2209
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:27,840
you're a good person with a good heart

2210
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,560
and a good soul save your energy you're

2211
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:32,080
going to be needed to help those less

2212
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:35,040
fortunate and that's how i

2213
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:37,679
yeah hey whoops uh i'm not sure what's

2214
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,639
going on here but anyway thank you uh

2215
01:23:45,030 --> 01:23:43,040
thank you very much for the call adriel

2216
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:45,040
appreciate it

2217
01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:48,480
and okay so the lines are open and the

2218
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:49,840
lines the phone number is up there eight

2219
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:52,880
five five four seven two five four eight

2220
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,760
three

2221
01:23:58,629 --> 01:23:55,040
and i'm going to look through the

2222
01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:58,639
comments so we have uh the line is open

2223
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:01,199
and see if anyone if if you're too shy

2224
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,480
to call as i understand that but do put

2225
01:24:10,229 --> 01:24:06,480
your questions if you have any up in

2226
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,239
caps if you would um and if i don't

2227
01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:12,159
uh if i don't get a call right away here

2228
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:13,520
i'm gonna bring

2229
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,400
uh bill back into the show and terrorize

2230
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:17,920
him for a little while

2231
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:19,840
um let's see

2232
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:22,560
nothing that i'm seeing here really

2233
01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:24,400
as far as questions but let me just take

2234
01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:25,679
a look here

2235
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:27,679
um

2236
01:24:32,229 --> 01:24:29,280
looks like we have another caller coming

2237
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:32,239
in so just hang in there for a second

2238
01:24:36,149 --> 01:24:33,679
and

2239
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:36,159
again for those of you who

2240
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:38,719
uh wanted to look at the pictures that

2241
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:40,960
we talked about and you are not watching

2242
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:42,800
this live you are listening to the audio

2243
01:24:48,629 --> 01:24:46,320
program every week we have a link to the

2244
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:48,639
show notes in the audio programs and all

2245
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,400
you have to do is click on that and you

2246
01:24:54,709 --> 01:24:52,080
will get to where those images are that

2247
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:54,719
we spoke about earlier

2248
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:55,600
here

2249
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:57,360
uh bill you said wait does that mean

2250
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:59,280
wait on you or do we have a caller

2251
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:00,960
coming in

2252
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:05,830
next week we have

2253
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:07,040
stan

2254
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:10,080
in

2255
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,400
pennsylvania

2256
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:16,159
and he's always on the phone never never

2257
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:18,719
does a computer um but he has just come

2258
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,880
out with a very interesting book

2259
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,480
and he had

2260
01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:24,239
uh i'm trying to remember i don't have

2261
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,760
the i don't have that information up

2262
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:27,840
here in front of me but

2263
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:30,480
oh let's see

2264
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:33,120
so i just heard from sam moranto friend

2265
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:34,960
of the show i'm gonna see if i can get

2266
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:37,040
him to call in

2267
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:38,080
uh

2268
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:41,199
you call he just sent me a text we have

2269
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:44,639
uh caroline from george roswell georgia

2270
01:25:51,030 --> 01:25:46,880
i know right where that is uh caroline

2271
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:52,870
caroline you're there you alive on the

2272
01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,440
air

2273
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,600
i'm wondering if i there we go caroline

2274
01:26:01,510 --> 01:25:59,120
you there

2275
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:01,520
yes can you hear me now yeah that was me

2276
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:04,239
i had i uh yeah that's me and my

2277
01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:08,239
technology so forgive me for that uh but

2278
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:10,159
but uh thank you thank you for the call

2279
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:11,840
i know right roswell i have a friend

2280
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:14,719
that lives there he has a uh he has an

2281
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,040
antique business uh antique online

2282
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:20,320
business he's been live there for years

2283
01:26:24,950 --> 01:26:23,199
ah yeah actually we had an email

2284
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:24,960
discussion about that a couple of years

2285
01:26:29,430 --> 01:26:27,600
ago because uh

2286
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:29,440
i automatically

2287
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:31,600
send you some money and usually you give

2288
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:33,600
me a nice thank you note and that was

2289
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:37,600
that's always very nice i like that um

2290
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,120
anyway uh

2291
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:41,840
i didn't always live in roswell georgia

2292
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,040
i grew up in seattle and uh

2293
01:26:50,110 --> 01:26:48,159
i was when i was one day in june of 19

2294
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:50,120
now sorry yeah

2295
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:54,159
1963 i had just turned 14

2296
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,080
in may which is why i remember the month

2297
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:58,560
i don't remember the day uh my mother

2298
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,560
came home from work and said there's

2299
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:02,400
going to be um

2300
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:04,320
you know a space capsule whatever we

2301
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:06,320
call them you know going overhead

2302
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:08,320
tonight around i think she said 10

2303
01:27:11,990 --> 01:27:09,760
o'clock i don't really remember i know

2304
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:12,000
it had gotten dark by then

2305
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:14,880
um and uh so

2306
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:18,480
so my older brother was 20 and my mom

2307
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:20,719
and i all decided we would go out and

2308
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:23,120
look for it so we did and

2309
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:26,320
we eventually saw it coming

2310
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:29,360
very slowly and it was getting bigger

2311
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,000
and smaller and bigger and smaller and

2312
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,560
my brother who knew everything you know

2313
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,560
as far as i knew said that that was

2314
01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:38,000
because of the way remember the way

2315
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:40,800
those things were were um

2316
01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:43,040
shaped like acorns

2317
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:44,080
you know so

2318
01:27:48,070 --> 01:27:46,000
when we would be seeing the small part

2319
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:48,080
it would be small and then the big part

2320
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:50,320
would you know so anyway that's

2321
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:53,280
lumbering along the sky very slowly

2322
01:27:56,070 --> 01:27:54,320
and then

2323
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,080
one of us noticed i don't remember which

2324
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:57,840
one noticed

2325
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:00,960
from the opposite direction but a little

2326
01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:03,440
bit this was coming from the

2327
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:06,159
south to the north and then from the

2328
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:07,360
north

2329
01:28:09,430 --> 01:28:08,480
east

2330
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:09,440
um

2331
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:10,400
another

2332
01:28:14,390 --> 01:28:13,360
smaller light a steady light

2333
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:14,400
was

2334
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,120
coming really fast

2335
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:19,840
and then it started to slow down

2336
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:22,400
and it came right up to the

2337
01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:25,280
to the you know space capsule astronaut

2338
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:26,400
whatever

2339
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:29,120
and uh and stopped for about a

2340
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:31,760
nanosecond and

2341
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:36,400
slowly faster faster faster faster fast

2342
01:28:39,199 --> 01:28:43,189
are you there

2343
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:46,550
hello

2344
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:47,430
um

2345
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,280
caroline are you still there

2346
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:51,760
carolyn

2347
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:53,840
hm

2348
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,360
oh carolyn you there i'm here

2349
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:59,120
you know i don't know how it happened i

2350
01:29:04,149 --> 01:29:01,520
was trying to type something and somehow

2351
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,159
uh somehow it automatically muted you

2352
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:06,239
and maybe it's just the key keystroke or

2353
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:09,040
something sorry about that um so you

2354
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:11,360
were talking about uh sorry you got cut

2355
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:13,360
off so i don't know

2356
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:15,360
uh i think this is uh

2357
01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:17,600
this is a program glitch uh according to

2358
01:29:21,270 --> 01:29:20,000
bill that happens so anyway sorry about

2359
01:29:22,790 --> 01:29:21,280
that i don't

2360
01:29:24,790 --> 01:29:22,800
i don't know

2361
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:24,800
did i think you said it was disappearing

2362
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:27,040
or something like that or

2363
01:29:30,629 --> 01:29:28,400
well it

2364
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:30,639
it came up to the

2365
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:33,280
space capsule thing whoever we called

2366
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:36,800
them in those days and uh and did a a 90

2367
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:38,400
degree turn

2368
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:40,159
on a dime

2369
01:29:50,149 --> 01:29:47,430
first kind of slowly and then faster and

2370
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:50,159
faster and faster and faster and i don't

2371
01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:52,400
think it was in the that was visible

2372
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:55,199
more than 30 seconds

2373
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,560
wow

2374
01:29:59,910 --> 01:29:58,239
that yeah that's quite incredible and

2375
01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,920
how many of you were watching at this

2376
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:01,679
time

2377
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:03,840
three of us three of us

2378
01:30:09,030 --> 01:30:06,800
my mother and my 20 year old college

2379
01:30:11,350 --> 01:30:09,040
student brother

2380
01:30:13,110 --> 01:30:11,360
and did you hear about anyone else

2381
01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:13,120
seeing this no

2382
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:14,719
no we just

2383
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:17,679
all through the newspapers the next day

2384
01:30:22,149 --> 01:30:19,360
listen to the news and that sort of

2385
01:30:23,350 --> 01:30:22,159
thing nothing and i've never seen heard

2386
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:23,360
anything

2387
01:30:26,310 --> 01:30:25,360
like that before

2388
01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:26,320
but

2389
01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,360
it was sure obvious that

2390
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:31,360
that wasn't um

2391
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:34,239
in the program so yeah doesn't sound

2392
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:35,679
like it

2393
01:30:40,550 --> 01:30:37,679
no

2394
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:40,560
yeah i was already interested in in ufos

2395
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:41,280
but

2396
01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:43,600
i really was more interested then so

2397
01:30:47,910 --> 01:30:46,239
it's been a lifelong interest anyway

2398
01:30:49,030 --> 01:30:47,920
that's that's it that's my little

2399
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,040
sighting

2400
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:51,360
i love it i love it and i do appreciate

2401
01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:53,040
the call

2402
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:54,159
all right

2403
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:57,120
right bye caroline

2404
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:58,239
bye

2405
01:31:03,110 --> 01:31:00,080
all right next we have

2406
01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:03,120
the one and only sam moronto

2407
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:04,239
ufo

2408
01:31:06,950 --> 01:31:05,120
oh

2409
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:06,960
you've ufologist

2410
01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:08,000
from

2411
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:09,760
the middle of the country sam welcome to

2412
01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:11,600
the show

2413
01:31:15,510 --> 01:31:14,080
from the heartland of the uh wonderful

2414
01:31:18,149 --> 01:31:15,520
u.s right

2415
01:31:21,669 --> 01:31:18,159
that's right how you been sam

2416
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:21,679
oh i'm kicking and um improving

2417
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:24,320
and uh just wanted to tell you happy

2418
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:26,400
500th

2419
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,120
show i can't believe that in fact i was

2420
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:32,000
so excited uh i have my better half here

2421
01:31:38,189 --> 01:31:35,120
that wants to uh wish you a happy 500th

2422
01:31:40,470 --> 01:31:38,199
too often julie hi julie

2423
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:40,480
congratulations how are you

2424
01:31:46,470 --> 01:31:43,440
i'm doing well good to hear your voice

2425
01:31:48,470 --> 01:31:46,480
yes same here congratulations

2426
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:48,480
thank you so many

2427
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:51,360
wonderful wonderful listeners my gosh

2428
01:31:55,750 --> 01:31:53,600
the questions and things that they were

2429
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:55,760
bringing up there was a few things i

2430
01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:58,400
wanted to address but i was wondering if

2431
01:32:01,270 --> 01:32:00,480
you had some interesting things that i

2432
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:01,280
could

2433
01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:04,239
uh maybe talk about

2434
01:32:08,870 --> 01:32:07,120
if i had some interesting things

2435
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:08,880
yes that you were that you were

2436
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:12,000
interested in throwing at me

2437
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:13,679
oh oh you mean throwing a question at

2438
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:14,480
you

2439
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:16,000
all right uh

2440
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:18,480
yeah um so just just let you know this

2441
01:32:22,310 --> 01:32:20,480
is the call-in that we're having here is

2442
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:22,320
basically you know people calling in

2443
01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:25,360
with their experiences and and whatever

2444
01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:28,960
but uh you know to go uh i i guess uh

2445
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:31,360
let's uh and we have uh let's see one

2446
01:32:34,229 --> 01:32:32,719
two three

2447
01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:34,239
we have looks like three people behind

2448
01:32:37,350 --> 01:32:36,320
you so we can't keep this too long but

2449
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:37,360
let's uh

2450
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:38,400
yeah

2451
01:32:42,149 --> 01:32:41,040
let's talk about um

2452
01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:42,159
the

2453
01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:47,920
tingly park

2454
01:32:53,350 --> 01:32:49,520
um mass

2455
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:53,360
uh ufo witness sighting i love that one

2456
01:32:57,350 --> 01:32:54,880
yes i was hoping you'd bring that up

2457
01:32:59,430 --> 01:32:57,360
because the gentleman with the triangle

2458
01:33:02,310 --> 01:32:59,440
and in fact hopefully you could find him

2459
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:02,320
to give my contact information to him

2460
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:05,199
because i'd love to talk more to him uh

2461
01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:07,760
that was such a

2462
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:11,360
um uh sighting again we get these large

2463
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:13,199
objects and we had them in tinley park

2464
01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:16,000
we had an anniversary of course uh the

2465
01:33:21,750 --> 01:33:19,040
october uh uh sighting and that was

2466
01:33:22,390 --> 01:33:21,760
2004. he's talking he was talking about

2467
01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:22,400
the

2468
01:33:26,550 --> 01:33:23,199
uh

2469
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:26,560
march 13 1997

2470
01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:28,800
we had activity in it about here it

2471
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:30,400
seemed like there were multiple

2472
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:31,920
sightings and this happens you have

2473
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:35,040
these adjunct sightings in other states

2474
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:37,440
that may not be as significant as the

2475
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:39,520
mass sightings and that's something as

2476
01:33:44,390 --> 01:33:42,080
you know i love and so do you uh the

2477
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:44,400
tinley park mass sighting had thousands

2478
01:33:47,830 --> 01:33:45,600
of people

2479
01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:47,840
that seen these objects the three

2480
01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:49,120
triangular

2481
01:33:54,629 --> 01:33:51,760
pattern of lights and an isosceles

2482
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:54,639
pattern that moved about the sky

2483
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:57,440
and this was the same scenario as what

2484
01:34:02,709 --> 01:33:58,719
we had up in

2485
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:02,719
rockford southern illinois in 2000

2486
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:04,480
and of course you know one thing we kind

2487
01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:06,239
of forget about is the

2488
01:34:10,110 --> 01:34:08,400
uh the carteret sightings

2489
01:34:12,790 --> 01:34:10,120
in july of

2490
01:34:14,470 --> 01:34:12,800
2001. that is something that one of

2491
01:34:16,310 --> 01:34:14,480
these days they got to get on there and

2492
01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:16,320
we could talk about a little bit that's

2493
01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:19,120
a very good math sighting uh but i don't

2494
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:21,280
want to hold your um your people up one

2495
01:34:25,750 --> 01:34:23,679
thing i did want to address is they can

2496
01:34:27,430 --> 01:34:25,760
always fill out a move on report just go

2497
01:34:29,590 --> 01:34:27,440
to mufon.com

2498
01:34:31,510 --> 01:34:29,600
and i would love to see uh some of the

2499
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:31,520
detail of those photos

2500
01:34:37,110 --> 01:34:34,800
and marty antonio would do a great job i

2501
01:34:39,270 --> 01:34:37,120
also do some photo analysis

2502
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:39,280
and if i can't figure it out i pass it

2503
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:40,400
on him

2504
01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:42,480
but uh excellent i want to thank you

2505
01:34:46,149 --> 01:34:44,239
very much so just just

2506
01:34:47,109 --> 01:34:46,159
sam before you go quickly what is the

2507
01:34:51,590 --> 01:34:47,119
carter

2508
01:34:53,750 --> 01:34:51,600
can you talk about that

2509
01:34:56,669 --> 01:34:53,760
sure the carteret sighting was you know

2510
01:35:00,629 --> 01:34:56,679
the it was back in july of

2511
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:00,639
2001 and people were seeing these the uh

2512
01:35:06,310 --> 01:35:03,280
uh seeing these triangular patterns and

2513
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,320
singular orange lights coming in uh near

2514
01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:08,719
the newark airport in fact they were

2515
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:11,600
picked up on radar and they were doing

2516
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:13,760
some remarkable speeds they were

2517
01:35:18,229 --> 01:35:16,800
actually standing still going very slow

2518
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:18,239
and going

2519
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:20,880
at velocities that they were just going

2520
01:35:25,109 --> 01:35:22,719
off the radar in other words the speeds

2521
01:35:27,590 --> 01:35:25,119
would not even be able to record them

2522
01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:27,600
this was investigated by ninja which was

2523
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:29,760
of course national institute discovery

2524
01:35:35,350 --> 01:35:32,480
science by bigelow aerospace and there

2525
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:35,360
was a very good write-up on that it was

2526
01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:37,040
covered in the newspaper and if they

2527
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:39,119
could if people are interested go on

2528
01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:42,400
youtube and check up the carteret new

2529
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:45,199
york or excuse me new jersey sightings

2530
01:35:50,310 --> 01:35:48,480
back in 2001 i believe it was july in

2531
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:50,320
fact i'm almost positive

2532
01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:52,560
and you could see some very good news

2533
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:54,000
reel and

2534
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,639
video so get a chance i know there's at

2535
01:36:00,790 --> 01:35:58,400
least two of them up there on youtube

2536
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:00,800
but we could talk about it some more uh

2537
01:36:05,189 --> 01:36:03,520
and give give you more detail

2538
01:36:08,390 --> 01:36:05,199
excellent well sam thank you for your

2539
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:08,400
call and thank you julie

2540
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:17,030
thank you sam all right take care yeah

2541
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:18,320
bye

2542
01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:21,520
all right next on the line we have brock

2543
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:23,760
from dayton ohio brock welcome to the

2544
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:28,629
uh hey martin rock

2545
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,239
i'm doing great

2546
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,320
i just wanted to say uh

2547
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:34,560
congratulations on 500

2548
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:36,239
episodes

2549
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:37,280
and

2550
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:44,000
my um one of my most recent uh

2551
01:36:48,950 --> 01:36:45,199
sightings

2552
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:48,960
i guess this was back in like 96 97

2553
01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:52,960
i was living in dayton ohio and uh

2554
01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:55,760
me and a buddy were driving down

2555
01:36:59,440 --> 01:36:57,840
uh route 4

2556
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:59,450
slash 235

2557
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:00,800
[Music]

2558
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:02,400
right next to

2559
01:37:06,390 --> 01:37:04,800
what's known as the huffman dam but

2560
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:06,400
what's interesting about that is on the

2561
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:08,639
other side of the huffman dam

2562
01:37:13,109 --> 01:37:10,880
there's several that's right pat

2563
01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:13,119
wright-patterson air force base is there

2564
01:37:17,189 --> 01:37:14,480
and so

2565
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:17,199
me and my friend were driving along and

2566
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,520
i'm looking out uh

2567
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:21,440
the right side of the car towards the

2568
01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:22,880
northwest

2569
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,400
and that's um

2570
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:26,480
the hebrew heights area

2571
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,520
and i see this uh flat disk that's just

2572
01:37:32,709 --> 01:37:31,360
kind of zipping along the tree lines i

2573
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,719
remember thinking

2574
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,800
if that's a pilot

2575
01:37:37,590 --> 01:37:36,080
that guy's going to be in a lot of

2576
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:37,600
trouble because

2577
01:37:41,109 --> 01:37:39,679
i never see planes flying that low and i

2578
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:41,119
never see planes flying that fast

2579
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:42,480
because it was literally just zipping

2580
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:44,000
along at the top of the

2581
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:45,280
tree line

2582
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:46,480
and then

2583
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:48,000
as i'm sitting there looking at this i'm

2584
01:37:53,669 --> 01:37:51,040
trying to recognize the profile of this

2585
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,679
plane because it was just a flat disc i

2586
01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:56,159
thought well maybe it's an f-16

2587
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:58,080
and i'm just seeing the profile of it

2588
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:59,040
it's

2589
01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:01,360
i'm not really seeing and as soon as i'm

2590
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:02,960
thinking that it suddenly just went

2591
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:05,600
vertical and just shot up and in the

2592
01:38:09,270 --> 01:38:06,560
sky

2593
01:38:10,390 --> 01:38:09,280
and was gone like in a second

2594
01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,400
and um

2595
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:12,880
i was thinking to myself like okay i've

2596
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:14,560
never seen anything like that before i

2597
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,239
wonder

2598
01:38:19,910 --> 01:38:18,239
tried to rationalize like what kind of

2599
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:19,920
plane could that have been and then as

2600
01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:22,239
i'm thinking that to myself i hear my

2601
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:24,320
buddy next to me he's driving and he's

2602
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:25,199
like

2603
01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:28,480
that wasn't

2604
01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:32,719
was that was something else and uh

2605
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:35,040
we were both kind of like in a in a daze

2606
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:36,159
for

2607
01:38:42,149 --> 01:38:40,159
a good 15 or 20 minutes um

2608
01:38:45,430 --> 01:38:42,159
it's not i think we've talked about that

2609
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:45,440
maybe one time since then yeah

2610
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:48,320
it was really pretty shocking yeah

2611
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:49,360
um

2612
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,679
you know people say like since we were

2613
01:38:55,430 --> 01:38:53,280
right next to ray pat like that could

2614
01:38:56,709 --> 01:38:55,440
have been a some kind of experimental

2615
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:56,719
plane or something like that and i'm

2616
01:39:00,550 --> 01:38:59,199
like okay yeah that's possible but if

2617
01:39:02,870 --> 01:39:00,560
you've got

2618
01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:02,880
some kind of like uh experimental

2619
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:04,239
aircraft

2620
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:06,960
maybe a drone because obviously like

2621
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:09,119
the way that thing accelerated like

2622
01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:10,800
upwards because it made just a right

2623
01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:13,040
angle turn it just when it was going

2624
01:39:17,030 --> 01:39:14,639
like really fast

2625
01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:17,040
horizontally and then suddenly it just

2626
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:19,119
shot up vertically

2627
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:23,360
um and was gone like in a in a second

2628
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:24,960
um if anybody had been in there they

2629
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:27,040
would have been liquefied

2630
01:39:31,030 --> 01:39:28,800
so but if they were flying like kind of

2631
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:31,040
experimental drone or something over a

2632
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:32,400
populated area that would have been

2633
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:33,280
super

2634
01:39:38,830 --> 01:39:37,440
because if they lost communication with

2635
01:39:41,109 --> 01:39:38,840
that

2636
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:41,119
vehicle it would crash it would have

2637
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:43,760
taken out like a whole neighborhood so

2638
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:44,719
i mean

2639
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:46,080
sure that's possible but i don't think

2640
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:48,400
that's a very good explanation so

2641
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,080
that's my most recent ufo sighting um

2642
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:54,719
it's a good one the head scratcher yeah

2643
01:39:58,149 --> 01:39:56,239
yeah that's right

2644
01:40:00,550 --> 01:39:58,159
right well hey thanks so much for the

2645
01:40:01,750 --> 01:40:00,560
call i appreciate it

2646
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:01,760
all right

2647
01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:07,760
michigan and uh johnny welcome to the

2648
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:10,159
show and also i want to say yuri from

2649
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,719
germany call back hopefully uh you'll

2650
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:14,560
try us again and we'll be able to get to

2651
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:18,400
you so uh welcome to the show johnny

2652
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:20,159
hey martin it's uh actually tony a

2653
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:21,520
little confusion on the name i spoke

2654
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:24,239
with you like six months ago maybe on a

2655
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:25,840
vertical cylinder

2656
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:27,360
michigan

2657
01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:30,320
oh yes i remember you yes hi yeah

2658
01:40:33,669 --> 01:40:32,159
what was odd about that is that thing

2659
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:33,679
bugs and it wasn't only myself a

2660
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:35,760
co-worker stood next to me for probably

2661
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:38,080
30 minutes and we handed binoculars back

2662
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:39,840
and forth to look at this thing and it

2663
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:42,480
was so near metro airport in detroit and

2664
01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:44,960
above landing aircraft on a nice sunny

2665
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:46,080
day

2666
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:48,480
i still i i've actually attempted to

2667
01:40:54,229 --> 01:40:51,920
foia the faa to get control tower audio

2668
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:54,239
and which the reply i got from them was

2669
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:57,840
uh audio from that time does not exist

2670
01:41:01,510 --> 01:41:00,159
and which is a little little just you

2671
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:01,520
know disturbing

2672
01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:02,639
but

2673
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:04,320
both of us cannot rationalize what we

2674
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:05,840
saw that day and we watched this thing

2675
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:07,760
for about 30 minutes

2676
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:09,840
traveled to the southwest against uh 20

2677
01:41:13,830 --> 01:41:11,760
mile an hour wind and never deviated

2678
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:13,840
course ever

2679
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:16,080
that is such a fascinating show our

2680
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,239
story i remember you telling me this

2681
01:41:22,470 --> 01:41:19,840
before and

2682
01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:22,480
uh i i love this this story because

2683
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:24,480
you're someone that really didn't have

2684
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,239
an interest in this topic at all and you

2685
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,239
just happen to witness thing this thing

2686
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:30,000
as a professional

2687
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,520
so absolutely

2688
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:33,199
yeah i worked like three miles from the

2689
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:34,960
airport uh pretty large i'm in charge of

2690
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:36,960
a pretty large facility and stared on my

2691
01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:38,400
office window and

2692
01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:40,400
saw something it did take the binoculars

2693
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:42,719
to really get it in focus and uh

2694
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:44,880
but we both stood there and couldn't

2695
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:47,360
figure out and my logical the best guess

2696
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:49,440
would be a balloon but a balloon can't

2697
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,800
maintain course

2698
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:52,960
against a 20 mile an hour wind

2699
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,280
and this right it looked metallic and it

2700
01:41:59,109 --> 01:41:57,360
looked pretty it looked fairly large but

2701
01:42:01,590 --> 01:41:59,119
that is hard to discern

2702
01:42:03,669 --> 01:42:01,600
you know did you i know i know i asked

2703
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,679
you this last time but did you ever try

2704
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:05,679
to take pictures i know you you could

2705
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:07,600
only see through the binocular probably

2706
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:09,040
is that is that

2707
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:11,600
the reason why you didn't get that

2708
01:42:15,109 --> 01:42:13,440
yep through the binocular you could make

2709
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:15,119
the shape out you could tell it was it

2710
01:42:19,350 --> 01:42:17,600
was uh a large cylinder from the looks

2711
01:42:22,070 --> 01:42:19,360
of it metallic from the looks of it it

2712
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:22,080
glinted light like you wouldn't believe

2713
01:42:27,030 --> 01:42:24,960
and that's what caught our eye and and i

2714
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:27,040
i always i keep binoculars in my office

2715
01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:28,800
i happened to just grab them walked out

2716
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:29,840
looked and

2717
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:32,800
it i just can't understand it and i know

2718
01:42:36,470 --> 01:42:34,639
every aircraft that day even though it

2719
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,480
was well above them had to be concerned

2720
01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:38,080
about what that thing was

2721
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,719
and it also involved towards the end of

2722
01:42:46,629 --> 01:42:42,480
it when it was almost directly over our

2723
01:42:49,030 --> 01:42:46,639
facility uh an f-16 flew from the north

2724
01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:49,040
to the south passing again above landing

2725
01:42:51,910 --> 01:42:50,159
aircraft

2726
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:51,920
uh right above them and flew to the

2727
01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:53,440
right next to that thing i mean i took

2728
01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:55,280
the binoculars down and saw the f-16 go

2729
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:56,719
right past it so

2730
01:43:02,070 --> 01:42:59,679
someone was interested in what that was

2731
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:02,080
and was that a was that in a horizontal

2732
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:04,560
position vertical what was it doing

2733
01:43:08,550 --> 01:43:06,239
it was vertical it was a vertical

2734
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:08,560
metallic cylinder i sent you an image

2735
01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:10,400
that's right i do remember

2736
01:43:17,109 --> 01:43:15,109
myself and a co-worker pulled it up it

2737
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:17,119
was in europe i guess i cuz i googled

2738
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:18,960
months and months went by after i said

2739
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:21,280
we cited it and i'm like what was that

2740
01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:23,440
and we started googling it looking at it

2741
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:27,040
and i i thought ufo was a you know uh

2742
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,800
you know a disc i never heard of a

2743
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:30,239
cylinder ufo

2744
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,080
do me a favor tony if you would can you

2745
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:34,560
resend that to me at martinet podcast

2746
01:43:39,430 --> 01:43:37,920
ufo we have uh yuri on from germany and

2747
01:43:41,430 --> 01:43:39,440
i know it's probably costing him some

2748
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:41,440
money so i'd like to uh

2749
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,520
yeah so anyway thank you so much for the

2750
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:45,760
call i appreciate it

2751
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:47,600
and uh and please do send that to me and

2752
01:43:50,629 --> 01:43:48,960
i'll get that into the show notes so

2753
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:50,639
people can see that image

2754
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:54,239
so uh yuri we have you from germany

2755
01:43:57,750 --> 01:43:56,639
welcome to the show good and talk

2756
01:44:02,070 --> 01:43:57,760
hi

2757
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:02,080
in germany because it's

2758
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:03,360
good

2759
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:05,760
yeah i had it i had a german stepmother

2760
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:08,320
that was a long time ago

2761
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:10,320
so yeah but anyway

2762
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:11,440
welcome

2763
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:12,400
yeah

2764
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:14,080
thank you very much

2765
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,400
yeah so uh what time is it there right

2766
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:18,639
now

2767
01:44:22,229 --> 01:44:20,719
well it's pretty late it's 15 minutes

2768
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,239
before two

2769
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:24,480
that's right a.m

2770
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:28,480
yeah well i thank you for calling

2771
01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:29,840
sure

2772
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:31,920
i have a pretty interesting story which

2773
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,629
i grew up in germany

2774
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:40,000
in the countryside in the deep

2775
01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:43,360
countryside and we were country boys

2776
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:47,840
so i was a 3016 years old and me and one

2777
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:49,760
of my best friends both of us wanted

2778
01:44:54,550 --> 01:44:52,239
each from school so i told to you know

2779
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,560
my parents that i'm going to sleep by

2780
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,800
his place and he said the same thing and

2781
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:58,560
we just want to hang out outside in the

2782
01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,560
woods and you know taking a walk in

2783
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:03,119
smoking pots and stuff like that

2784
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:08,080
okay as we did after i think

2785
01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:10,000
late night it started to be very late we

2786
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:11,760
just want to stay outside all night this

2787
01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:17,990
there was something above us and i

2788
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:19,440
noticed that

2789
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:20,800
there was like

2790
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:22,880
a shining

2791
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:25,199
aircraft looks like

2792
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:27,040
i don't know if you say like a flying

2793
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,119
sorcerer but i could not really say

2794
01:45:34,629 --> 01:45:31,920
because it was uh surrounding by

2795
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:34,639
like plasma like like not like just a

2796
01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:36,800
regular light but like a liquid like the

2797
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:40,239
light is by itself is a material

2798
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:42,960
so we were very stressed out because we

2799
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:45,280
could we were in my home area and we

2800
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,199
could not go back home

2801
01:45:50,229 --> 01:45:48,560
because then

2802
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:50,239
my parents knew that i was a teaching

2803
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:52,400
and i'm not sleeping by his place and

2804
01:45:55,109 --> 01:45:53,360
the same

2805
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:55,119
with this so we were trying anyway we

2806
01:45:58,470 --> 01:45:56,880
were just walking in the woods and

2807
01:46:00,790 --> 01:45:58,480
trying to get rid of it to see if it's

2808
01:46:02,950 --> 01:46:00,800
following us and it was following us all

2809
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,960
night long

2810
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:04,400
until the

2811
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:10,149
all night long so you dealt with this

2812
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:13,920
thing all night long no

2813
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,840
i didn't i didn't i don't know what to

2814
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:17,760
expect but i didn't know how to feel

2815
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:19,760
about it when it was happening yeah it

2816
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:22,080
was like it was interesting i was

2817
01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:25,040
curious in my mind in his mind both of

2818
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:27,360
us were it was like something that we

2819
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:30,639
believed that is existing but

2820
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:32,480
we understood what's going on what's

2821
01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:33,920
happening but

2822
01:46:38,830 --> 01:46:36,159
since then since the morning with both

2823
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:38,840
of us lost of memories

2824
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:46,950
we were speaking about it

2825
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:48,000
but

2826
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:49,600
when we were speaking about it it was

2827
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:51,440
after each one of us is a separate

2828
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:54,960
experience at night same

2829
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:57,119
experience but

2830
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,239
in different places so my experience was

2831
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,080
that i was

2832
01:47:06,550 --> 01:47:04,080
living in the countryside for a first

2833
01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:06,560
floor in my room and there is a gap from

2834
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:12,149
to the garden it's about five

2835
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:15,440
five or six meters like 15 feet

2836
01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:16,400
and

2837
01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:18,080
i was waking up in the middle of the

2838
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:20,400
night from my dream and i was waking up

2839
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,400
into a light a very bright light

2840
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:26,639
that like a

2841
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:29,280
completely everything bright light and i

2842
01:47:34,070 --> 01:47:31,840
feel like i'm floating in the air

2843
01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:34,080
through my window and then i do not

2844
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:37,119
remember what happened since then

2845
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:38,320
i wake up

2846
01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:40,639
in my bed

2847
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,360
the day after and

2848
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:45,679
and the window was open and i did not

2849
01:47:48,629 --> 01:47:47,440
lift the window open i left the window

2850
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:48,639
closed

2851
01:47:53,669 --> 01:47:51,040
and then i remember what was happening a

2852
01:47:55,990 --> 01:47:53,679
little bit i have a very blurry memory

2853
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:56,000
about the pictures i just remember that

2854
01:47:59,030 --> 01:47:57,840
i was like lying on

2855
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:59,040
some

2856
01:48:02,310 --> 01:48:00,239
metal

2857
01:48:04,950 --> 01:48:02,320
table

2858
01:48:07,350 --> 01:48:04,960
i got through some

2859
01:48:09,669 --> 01:48:07,360
surgical process

2860
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:09,679
it was probably as i remember from my

2861
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:11,440
memory it was like painful but i could

2862
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:13,119
not move i remember i was trying to

2863
01:48:18,629 --> 01:48:14,159
scream

2864
01:48:20,229 --> 01:48:18,639
atmosphere no voice like there is

2865
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,239
nothing like you you try to scream and

2866
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:22,400
you cannot do anything about it

2867
01:48:27,510 --> 01:48:24,960
and the same experience and my friend

2868
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:27,520
had we were we were speaking about it

2869
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:28,560
and

2870
01:48:32,870 --> 01:48:30,080
since then we did not really want to

2871
01:48:34,470 --> 01:48:32,880
think about it but it's met me and four

2872
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:34,480
other friends

2873
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:35,760
after

2874
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:37,600
half about half a year

2875
01:48:42,070 --> 01:48:40,880
at the same area but

2876
01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:42,080
then there was

2877
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:44,639
no not any interesting experience it was

2878
01:48:49,990 --> 01:48:47,520
about more we went in the woods and then

2879
01:48:50,790 --> 01:48:50,000
we saw that thing the slime sorcerer

2880
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:50,800
again

2881
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:53,360
and it looks exactly the same it looks

2882
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:54,080
just

2883
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:56,320
more clear because it was not above me

2884
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,239
was in front of us so we can see it like

2885
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:00,480
what let's say like half a mile in front

2886
01:49:05,109 --> 01:49:02,719
of us and it was like

2887
01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:05,119
eggs egg shaped egg

2888
01:49:09,189 --> 01:49:07,280
i think so because it's like it was very

2889
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:09,199
hard because it was surrounding material

2890
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:10,960
which made like of

2891
01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:13,360
kind of lava or plasma or something like

2892
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:15,840
that which was mesmerizing

2893
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:18,000
mesmerizing it was like you look at it

2894
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:20,159
and you cannot stop looking at it it was

2895
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:22,000
something weird and then i remember one

2896
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:23,280
of the friends

2897
01:49:28,229 --> 01:49:26,400
were not hypnotized by that we were four

2898
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:28,239
and he was like let's go let's go and i

2899
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:30,480
wanted to keep on watching that and

2900
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:32,159
since then i don't even remember what

2901
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:34,080
happened at the same night and i don't

2902
01:49:37,350 --> 01:49:36,000
we didn't we never really spoke about it

2903
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:37,360
anymore so

2904
01:49:42,629 --> 01:49:39,920
yuri if you easily my experience

2905
01:49:45,550 --> 01:49:42,639
yeah yuri when you get off the line if

2906
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,560
you would just email me at

2907
01:49:50,149 --> 01:49:47,760
martinetpodcastufo.com i'd like to like

2908
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:50,159
to ask you uh you know just uh connect

2909
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:52,320
with you and and talk with you some more

2910
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:54,639
and uh we have one other person waiting

2911
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,880
we only have about four minutes left so

2912
01:50:00,950 --> 01:49:59,119
just just a quick question um have you

2913
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:00,960
ever thought about doing any or your

2914
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,400
friends ever thought about doing any

2915
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:04,480
type of regression therapy and

2916
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:07,280
hypnotherapy for you know uh i know it

2917
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:09,360
can be tricky but i'm just wondering if

2918
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:11,840
that's something you've ever considered

2919
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,080
well my best friend that i had the

2920
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:16,480
really intense experience at the same

2921
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:17,599
night

2922
01:50:22,830 --> 01:50:20,639
not he was suiciding like i don't know

2923
01:50:24,470 --> 01:50:22,840
committed suicide like 10 years

2924
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:24,480
ago and

2925
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:26,639
my other friends everybody lives in a

2926
01:50:29,830 --> 01:50:28,480
different area in the world so it's like

2927
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:29,840
one in canada

2928
01:50:33,189 --> 01:50:31,440
i have one friend maybe in canada i

2929
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:33,199
remember a lot of stuff

2930
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:34,960
but yeah i will email you and everything

2931
01:50:39,430 --> 01:50:37,280
and let's see what's going on this is my

2932
01:50:42,149 --> 01:50:39,440
story always stories not something

2933
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:42,159
something that i live with it's fine

2934
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:43,920
just it just makes me know that there is

2935
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,560
a lot a lot of more than what we see and

2936
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:47,840
understanding

2937
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:49,119
but it also was a little bit

2938
01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:50,639
disappointing because there is no

2939
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:52,960
answers there's no any answers i don't

2940
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,679
know

2941
01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:55,840
any communication any information

2942
01:50:59,350 --> 01:50:57,199
anything

2943
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:59,360
that's right i know that is frustrating

2944
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:00,719
yuri thanks so much for the call that

2945
01:51:05,750 --> 01:51:03,199
was very interesting

2946
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:05,760
okay thank you all right you take care

2947
01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:07,920
all right we have our last caller for

2948
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:10,080
the night terry from uh terry from

2949
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:12,320
kansas city welcome to the show terry we

2950
01:51:16,709 --> 01:51:14,800
have just about three minutes

2951
01:51:19,510 --> 01:51:16,719
well man i'll make it quick

2952
01:51:21,589 --> 01:51:19,520
congratulations your 500.

2953
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:21,599
thank you and uh

2954
01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:23,040
i have like

2955
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:25,199
seven observables in the sense that

2956
01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:28,880
they've appeared classic as discs

2957
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:30,880
in the 50s early

2958
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:34,000
then there was acorn shape a typical

2959
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:35,920
triangle shape

2960
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:38,480
now they've been flying wings

2961
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,520
a lot of people have reported orbs

2962
01:51:46,310 --> 01:51:44,080
but the tic tac or cigar shape has

2963
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:46,320
seemed to be prevalent no matter what

2964
01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:48,800
decade all the way back to lonnie

2965
01:51:54,310 --> 01:51:51,840
in new mexico as the policeman he saw a

2966
01:51:55,750 --> 01:51:54,320
cigar tic tac shape and of course we

2967
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:55,760
have that today

2968
01:52:00,070 --> 01:51:58,560
oh and even the navy pilots have seen

2969
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:00,080
squares with

2970
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:03,360
translucent circles in the middle

2971
01:52:07,030 --> 01:52:05,599
so yeah the square the squares in box

2972
01:52:09,109 --> 01:52:07,040
shape is another one a friend of mine

2973
01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:09,119
saw a box shaped one yeah

2974
01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:11,040
with a with a trans they could see

2975
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:13,280
through it what's your theory on all the

2976
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,199
different shapes of different eras

2977
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:17,360
except for the tic tac or cigar shape

2978
01:52:20,070 --> 01:52:18,480
seems to be

2979
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,080
every decade

2980
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:22,639
those sightings are prevalent

2981
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:25,360
yes uh i guess my theory you know people

2982
01:52:29,430 --> 01:52:27,840
jokingly say oh yeah it's a new new year

2983
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:29,440
model or something you know the triangle

2984
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:31,440
used to be i mean the saucer used to be

2985
01:52:36,629 --> 01:52:33,760
the only models but uh and i think

2986
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:36,639
that's you know just out of humor but um

2987
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:38,639
i tend to think that

2988
01:52:42,390 --> 01:52:40,800
the shape of the objects have really

2989
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:42,400
nothing to do with

2990
01:52:47,109 --> 01:52:44,320
them moving around you know i may be

2991
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:47,119
totally off on that but um i i tend to

2992
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:48,960
think that uh

2993
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:50,639
well for one thing i have no idea why

2994
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:53,199
there are different shapes but i

2995
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:56,320
tend to believe that um shape has little

2996
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:59,119
to do with anything when it comes to

2997
01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:01,119
wherever they're coming from

2998
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,440
so uh i think they're different

2999
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:05,520
different different eras

3000
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:08,400
of people traveling back in time and

3001
01:53:12,629 --> 01:53:10,880
that's the model they're using or

3002
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,639
that's definitely another theory you

3003
01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:14,880
know if uh time travel is definitely

3004
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:17,280
another theory and i you know i i think

3005
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:20,159
it's all fascinating again i have really

3006
01:53:27,669 --> 01:53:24,400
no idea of what it is myself but um but

3007
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:27,679
i i do i i've always wondered a number

3008
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:29,040
of times

3009
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:31,440
you know why they are differently shaped

3010
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:32,719
the things that people are seeing and

3011
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,520
also uh you know why they are showing

3012
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:37,520
themselves to us with lights at night

3013
01:53:41,669 --> 01:53:39,040
you know that type of thing none of it

3014
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,679
makes sense but um we are totally out of

3015
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,599
time at this point but i do want to

3016
01:53:47,350 --> 01:53:45,599
thank you terry

3017
01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:47,360
all right okay bye-bye now

3018
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:49,440
bye now thanks all right everyone so

3019
01:53:52,550 --> 01:53:50,960
thank you so much for your calls thank

3020
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:52,560
you for participating i really

3021
01:53:58,390 --> 01:53:55,360
appreciate it and we'll be not back next

3022
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,400
week as i mentioned uh prior with uh

3023
01:54:02,950 --> 01:54:00,880
stan gordon always a fun guy to have on

3024
01:54:07,130 --> 01:54:02,960
the show and thanks again everyone and

3025
01:54:15,690 --> 01:54:07,140
remember to keep your eyes to the sky